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white american
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Posted 8:37, 07/10/2010
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Your best post ever joe.
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Yoda_Joe_blie
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Posted 14:15, 07/10/2010
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I thot it was. Unfortanatly it was deleted. So let me restate what I wrote. More or less when I write I feel what I write and it gets put on paper with out me knowing what I write.
Is North Carolina thinking or going to pass a law like Arizona has? The Obamanation Regime sead themselfs there are multi millions of illegals in the country. In todays economy and rate of unemployment. Would a few hundred thousand job openings help North Carolina? They say thows are jobs Americans will not do. Do you think Americans would do thows jobs today?
I think thats what I posted. Im faily shoor it wasent anything off key to deserve deletion.
White American<--- Is this corect?
One more thing. Americans did thows jobs in the past.
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Newday
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Posted 23:51, 07/17/2010
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Yoda,
I hope that Americans will do those jobs. We have become a society where many think someone owes them something instead of working hard to make their lot in life better. We owe illegals nothing and what is happening in Arizona and other states now is States exercising States Rights. Regardless of the law we need to be able to defend our ways of life, our jobs and our economy. If illegals are a part of the problem then they need to go elsewhere, become legal and become part of American Society and not just sign up for Food Stamps. Citizenship should be a part of every program we offer. No green card means you dont get anything. Simple.
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wizard
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Posted 8:28, 07/18/2010
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Has anyone else noticed the obama admin is always talking about immigration reform. He will not even address the real problem, illegal alien invasion. Why has obama not made one comment about the black panther member promoting killing crackers and cracker babies? Look what happened in Chapel Hill, look what happened in Philly. Could this prove our president is a racist? The facts seem to support that he is.
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Newday
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Posted 9:1, 07/18/2010
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Wizard,
Obama is operation on immigration within the laws that have been passed. Immigration reform and dealing with the Illegal Invasion are two separate subjects all together. Comments from racist groups are just that comments and just because Obama didnt comment on the comments doesnt mean he is good with them. Youre just sore your man didnt get in and now your trying to escalate some sort of insurrection against the one who did. The states have had about enough of not addressing the illegal invasion and that is why the new wave of Arizona type laws are coming about. Several States are enacting them regardless of what has happened on the Federal Level. When a law is bad for a state then thats the sort of thing that happens and it has. I think instead of initiating hate at the president maybe you ought to consider he is going by the enacted Federal laws that are in place. That what you are supposed to do as the President. What is being done with immigration law by the states is a loud statement saying we are going to take care of these problems ourselves. Sue us if you like we have States Rights and this is a bad Federal Law. This may be the beginning of the repeal of it. We have to stand for something and the States are deciding to one at at time. Screw the Black Panthers likely you wont be anywhere near their neighborhood anyway. They represent a very very small group of people and dont represent mainstream society. Speech is free and thats all it is. Speech meant to turn heads.
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wizard
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Posted 10:5, 07/18/2010
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What right did obama have to interfere with the Chapel Hill police dept?
Why did obama refuse to do anything about voter intimidation in philly?
Why has the DOJ been told to not investigate black crimes against whites?
These are all facts. Do you not see a problem with this?
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Newday
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Posted 10:24, 07/18/2010
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I havent read all those subjects? It sounds more like political blather to me honestly. Likely a lot of its not exactly what youre saying it is but whatever.
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wizard
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Posted 14:27, 07/18/2010
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Then the national news channels must be political blithering idiots.
Do you honestly think anyone believes you didn't hear about the beer summit?
what about the voter intimitadion that was vidioed and shown on national news.
It would seem you don't watch enough of what is happening in this nation to to even post about it. It is a shame you make yourself look so uninformed, or uneducated.
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Newday
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Posted 15:58, 07/18/2010
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I really dont care for youre political blathering and no I dont spend a lot of time in front of television. Im too busy working in this kinder gentler business environment the republicans have ushered in. Dont you wish we had the economic prosperity we had under Clinton. Yes I miss those days!!
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wizard
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Posted 7:47, 07/19/2010
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It is refreshing to finally see a liberal that admits they know nothing about what is happening in the US. But that fact still doesn't stop you from making ignorant posts. If you try to debate politics, you should be more educated.
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Newday
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Posted 8:6, 07/19/2010
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Wiz,
I know how Clinton left it and it was really good and you guys have just made quite a mess actually. Doesnt take a genius to see that. Thats why we have a guy named Barack Obama in the White House. Its because guys like you just cant cut the mustard. Not one Republican President ever offered his country a balanced budget! So why is it a mystery this county is in the mess its in. Mostly Republican governance over a long period of time. I guess they are too busy worrying about someone might be making money and making sure they dont. Act your age not your shoe size!!
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wizard
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Posted 10:13, 07/19/2010
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So you don't blame the democrats for the mess they have made in this country in the last 3 1/2 years. How very democratic of you. When is it time for obama to take credit for the mess we are in since he took office? I will admit Bush made a lot of mistakes while in office, but obama is in office now. He needs to take blame for the many mistakes he has made. I am really surprised obama doesn't blame Bush for the health care mess that he forced on us, that very few wanted. You should get your nose out of obamas butt, and see that he is only trying to ruin this nation. I do feel sorry for you and your simple minded attitude.
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Newday
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Posted 10:59, 07/19/2010
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Wiz,
Its not been 3 1/2 yrs its been 2 and 1/2yrs. The stimulus--which I didnt support was an idea of Bush Jr and Obama finished up the work on it. If business fails it need to fail and get it over with. Maybe then those Northerns could appreciate the pressure us Southerns have lived with all these years. The bank bail outs might be something we have to live with but hopefully we will have installed policies that will prevent that happening again for awhile.
The health care plan hasnt proven to be anything yet because it has started yet. Obama doesnt have anything to do with BP's folly in the Gulf. I dont have my nose up Obamas butt. He hasnt had a chance to ruin much of anything yet and history hasnt yet borne that out. However history has borne out what Bush Sr., Clinton and Junior have done. Obama isnt trying to ruin this nation he is trying to give you something back. You are just listening to your generals tell you its bad. Your people are lining the pockets of big business as hard as they can but from what ive seen "Trickle Down" hasnt been trickling much down other than minimum wage jobs and promoting class division.
I am only going on what Ive seen historically. Obamas term will write its own. If you didnt have your nose so far up Rush Limbaughs butt you would see the Republicans/Bushs had an agenda and keeping control of the markets was it. We suffered at the pump for their higher profits. That is why Obama got in in the first place. No ones fault except theirs. So if Obama fixes something during his term and gives us something back Im sure youre side will be happy to take it back.
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Yoda_Joe_Blie
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Posted 11:14, 07/19/2010
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Newday<--- What wizard said on the 3 notes are true. There is a direct connection with Obama himself. Sorry to say. Direct connection as in Obama with the harverd prefacer and the "cracker hater" sleeping in the Lincoln bedroom. Clinton inherited Ragenonics. Bush 2 inherited the start of a recession. This is information that later came out about Clintons massageing some # for gores run. What the crash of today is attributed to is......... Wait for it........
Government interference in banking industry. Bush 2 did do some wrong. I will admit he is not a real fav of mine. What he did do was. What HE thot was best for the country. Today's economic downfall can be identified by anyone who may have bossiness expireance of any kind.
Wiz<---- subject was immigration. I do agree with the obamanation being in the liberation theology category. They are going to destroy this country and make it in there imadge.
Btw I am a immigrant my parents waited 5 years to get permition to immigrate from Europe to the US. I came here when I was 5 years old. I went in to first grade. I knew ZERO English. There was no one to translate for me. Today I have no accent. I can't spell but eh whatever. I don't think of myself as "something"-American. I am just American. Like I sead I may have min born in another country. I can speak proper English. I can speak better than some US born mexicans. As in no accent. So I may hate illegals more than the average haters.
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Newday
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Posted 11:47, 07/19/2010
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Yoda,
Thats a great success story about coming to America. That what America is supposed to be about. I dont know about all the Obama mess wiz said but I hear so much blathering about Obama from the Obama haters and everytime I go check something out only part of the truth is being screamed about. I just dont have a lot of time for any of it. Thats why I go by history. I dont care who entertains who, sometimes you have to visit with people and talk to people to find out whats happening with them. If you agree with them thats what might concern me. I dont belive Obama is a hater of any kind. I think the man goes by the law of the land and thats what Presidents are supposed to do. Thats good enough for me.
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Yoda_Joe_Blie
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Posted 13:41, 07/19/2010
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Newday<--- True on the going by the law. There are loop holes and missenterpritations. It's not absolute synce man made them. They are enforced by man.
Case in point. Clinton perjerd himself. Nothing of significance happens do to mans vote. The never ending lake of fire which burns yet not consumes. You can't escape the true judge.
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Newday
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Posted 16:58, 07/19/2010
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That about Clinton maybe true and may also be true of scores of other politicians on both sides. Since its not for me to be the final judge I do not concern myself with wondering who is sleeping with whom. I really dont care. I look at the performance of the economy thats what I care about. Its the job for me nothing else, thats all I care about. I really dont care for promoting others opinions of what they consider moral because any decision moral is a personal decision that you must atone for and no one else. No one makes you make those decisions. You and you alone stand for judgement. We as voters hire the President as a CEO of this country and that is his job when he is on duty.
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Newday
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Posted 21:3, 07/25/2010
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I dont know if you guys are reading about Arizona but it seems the illegals are leaving in droves. There goes the drain on services, the farm labor, the gangs there it all goes. Sure the law may violate some federal law about racial profiling but if Mexicans are predominately brown with black hair and you know you have lots of them illegal what is wrong with asking them for proof of citizenship? If they have green card there is no problem. If not they are here illegally its that simple. If they are born here someone will have a record of it. Now the farmers may complain but seems to me people might need jobs so maybe it all works out. Maybe some of the farmers that brought them here can go the fee for the citizenship if they are worth so much. I think you will be looking for an increase in groceries because they are going to have a hard time finding workers though.
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Yoda_Joe_Blie
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Posted 11:53, 07/26/2010
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Newday<--- I find it very difercult to beleave you are so ignorant of currant events. Just to inform you. The US government IS NOT suing Arizona with regards to racial profiling. Race is no part in any way in the suit. The law is 16 pages long. It specifically states that race will not be used at the end of every part and section of the law. There for the law voilates ZERO federal race profiling law. It was written in a way in witch it could be defended in court. They knew it would be challanged there for it was clearly written.
That same black panther that wants to kill "cracker babys" and "white people" is the very same person who stayed at the Loncoln bedroom 2 times. After his remarks. So I gess the prez wanted his views on things. He was the very same one dressed in black holding a nightstick in front of a poll place. The white house forced the case to be Dropped. Lawers who quit the DOJ and are now testifying(aka wistleblowers) say it was the white house.
The beer summit. Nabors called the police. They say a man trying to brake in to a home. A white officer saw a black man braising in to dead house. The officer asked for ID. The black man. A collage profecour and owner of the house got physical and baligerant. The officer arrested the profecour. Obama with no information called the cambredge police stupid and racists. Terned out. That Obama was wrong. Police officer actualy teaches a race sensitivity course. The profecour did act inapropreatly and Cambridge police are not raceists. Ended with the 3 of them having a beer.
Now back to the Arizona thing.
That's great news newday. I soon hope that our illegles leave NC. More jobs for actual Americans to do and live off of. Mexico is going to miss it's #2 form of national income. Just under tourism. That money the mexicans send back home. You know that money that is not returned to the US economy and gos directly to mexico so it stays afloat.
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Newday
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Posted 14:17, 07/26/2010
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Yoda,
I havent read the law but all I hear from the overly concerned politically correct crowd is over racial profiling. I dont think there is anything wrong with it. I dont watch a lot of tv so I know nothing about the Black Panther thing. Yoda I have to work most all the time. If I could find somewhere to find an article on it on the internet I will read it right quick but:
Just because Obama has someone to the White house doesnt mean he supports their views. Thats why I dont worry with that but it seems anything that even smacks of a chance to lay blame on or say something bad about the man the conservatives jump on. Its about making noise not sense.
All I can say about that is that they did the same to Clinton and we sure had it good then. So say what you want but Id love to have that economy back maybe then I would stand a chance of being able to retire.
Im very happy about Arizona and the other states I think its going to catch on and yes we do have the right to take care of our own problems especially if the federal goverment does not assist. More jobs, less social services, less gangs its a win, win, win situation and I think the federal goverment need to stay out of it.
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Yoda_Joe_blie
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Posted 17:1, 07/28/2010
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Newday <-- I feel your pain about working all the time. I am lucky to work in a place with a radio set to 94.5 some of the day. Yes i listen to Glenn Beck. When the radio is off i listen to sermons on my iphone.
Web is a clearing house of info. You have to be careful to read actual news and not opinion. Im shoor you know this already.
Too bad the judge in the Arizona case ruled in a unfavorable way.
God be with you Newday.
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Newday
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Posted 8:5, 07/30/2010
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From the little Ive heard it seems Arizona is ignoring the judges ruling? I think that is fine its called Civil Disobedience and is proper when the goverment takes on too big of a role. You also note that these illegals are leaving in droves and soon there will a whole lot less of them to complain and the complainers will leave as well.
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