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civilservant1
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Posted 2:28, 05/03/2010
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I know this thread will no doubt open up a can of worms but here goes anyway. What do you all think about the service you get from your local fire departments and the county rescue squad???? Do you feel that you are getting what you pay for? How could they better serve you and the community???? I know most departments have at least one person on duty during the day now which helps with getting a truck and equipment to the scene alot faster. As a part of the fire and rescue group I would love to know what you all think so that we might better serve you.
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dingo59
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Posted 7:23, 05/03/2010
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My fire department is great! These guys train hard & are always ready to respond when needed! They are always more than willing to help out in the community with charity projects or fund raisers. Could not ask for a better department. EAST BEND FIRE DEPARTMENT IS THE BEST! THANK YOU GUYS!
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sandy
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Posted 9:59, 05/03/2010
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I think we are lucky as a whole county as far as i am concerned i think every dept is great.Thanks to all fire,rescue,and police for everything you do.Remember a lot of these people are volunteers.
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LeRoy B...
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Posted 10:58, 05/03/2010
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civilservant: My question is why do so many depts respond to all the calls ? I hear a call for East Bend, they call out the fire dept, and they never call 900 ,BUT you are always call in 914 enroute , Same thing if its WY, Jonesville, ECT: You should go out only if called Save the tax payers some money. If heavy equipment is needed they call call for it. If a boat is need ,they call for it.
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InTheMiddle
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Posted 13:21, 05/03/2010
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LeRoy B... Fire depts are dispatched different from how they were once dispatched. Just because station 9 was not called out by name doesnt mean they are not dispatched. They are now dispatched by words such as echo,delta,charlie,bravo,alpha. These words mean different things. Example: BRAVO dispatch means FD and Res. Squad 10:18 response EMS/POV`s routine response. Call your local fire cheif or go to a meeting to find out more on how stations are dispatched.
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LeRoy B...
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Posted 17:25, 05/03/2010
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in the middle: I know that A,B,D. It Means What they need, also they don't give a name now. AHH!! Privacy GET technical, Political Correctness. BUT They Do call out the FD Number. and what other agencys they need. No sense sending all the units out to a control Burn.
They need to put a fine on the ones that don't call in and say I have a control burn at such and such address. I know some time 9 helps EMS as a driver. BUT we need to stop the WASTE !!
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civilservant1
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Posted 19:22, 05/03/2010
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Leroy not sure where your getting your facts from but the rescue squad only responds when they are dispatched. If they respond to a fire it is because they were dispatched.
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InTheMiddle
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Posted 19:41, 05/03/2010
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I agree with fines or fees imposed on frequent callers or false alarms but as far as the waste,I just dont see an excessive amount. The dispatchers have a computer program that tells them which units to dispatch based on questions answered by the caller. One of the purposes of the program is to cut down on unnecessary units that are dispatched. It also determines if the response is 10:18 or routine.
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little voices in my head
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Posted 20:39, 05/03/2010
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fire departments come and get cats out of trees (well they used to anyways). so who do i call if i have a snake in my house? either way i will be needing to leave in an ambulance for having a heartattack. but i'm still gonna want that dang snake out of my house.
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trulyamazed
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Posted 19:5, 05/05/2010
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Leroy B.----As a member of both a FD and the Rescue Squad, we ONLY respond when requested! I'm not sure where your getting your misinformation, but if you would like to witness the dispatch and response your self, our frequency is 154.040
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trulyamazed
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Posted 19:7, 05/05/2010
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However I do agree with your view on the control burn and frequent callers
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buckmaster
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Posted 22:56, 05/05/2010
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For the record, the call designation (alpha, bravo, charlie, delta, echo) does not generate an automatic response of any department including rescue. Under NC DOI regulations, individuals who respond to a call without being dispatched are not covered under insurance and is a violation of the Yadkin County call response guidelines. Every firefighter in Yadkin was forced to sign an agreement not to respond to EMD calls unless dispatched and certified to provide medical treatment (don't know about rescue). The only exception is the good Samaritan laws for happenstance, not response after hearing a call. Echo responses only add law enforcement response, not "anybody who hears it".
Doubt my source? Call your VFIS or other insurance provider. We did and got it in writing from VFIS!
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LeRoy B...
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Posted 16:19, 05/06/2010
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All you have to do is call David Matthews, Get all the info you need..
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JohnQPublic
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Posted 4:1, 05/07/2010
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OOOOOOOOooo My............
LeRoy, I feel like we have had this conversation many many times before. Maybe not the whole thing, but in parts non the less.
Infact I'm anticipating a headache at anytime just thinking about it.
I will first address the statements made about the "alpha, bravo, charlie, & delta" that your hearing while your huddled around the scanner with nothing better to do all day. These numbers and letter combinations (non departmental numbers) you are hearing are a part of the EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCH system or protocols if you will.
Now my intention is to give you a ruff understanding, not explain every in, out, & protocol.
The EMD system has several benefits. In the past when you called 911, you just someone on the other end that was making a judgment call as to what or who to send to your emergency. With the 911 system, the way you answer the questions determines who gets sent through a preplanned protocol. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ANSWER THE DISPATCHERS QUESTIONS TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY. Just because your still talking to the dispatcher does not mean units are not enroute. Most commonly once the call is originated another dispatcher actually handles dispatching and coordination of units and different departments, instead of the same dispatcher trying to do both. Most of the general public due to frustration because they dont feel like answering questions is important.
Once all questions are answered, the dispatcher is given a code which they pass on to the emergency responders. Weather is be Law, Fire, EMS or Rescue.
Now these numbers your are hearing are telling responders what to expect and possibly what trucks they need to roll off the station floor. These numbers are also in place so YOU the general public doesnt know whats going on! Its none of your business that their is a domestic dispute or a nose bleed at this residence or location. For instance, if my memory serves me correctly a 17-delta-4 translates into a fall with serious injury. The first number you hear represents the type of call. The ALPHA means routine response, its not that serious. BRAVO mean UNKNOWN. You most commonly hear a BRAVO when either the caller hangs up (refusing to answer the EMD questions), or it was one of those wonderful citizens that drives by a wreck BUT doesn't stop to find out if anyone is hurt. CHARLIE means the injuries are kinda serious, but not necessarily life threatening. DELTA response means their is SERIOUS/Life Threatening injury is indicated.
Numbers given after that give further information about the call such as the difference between a rear end collision wreck, Lateral collision, or Roll over collision.
All these numbers and codes help guide responders. AND hopefully keep you the general public in the dark, because when that person called 911, they didnt want you hearing their business anyways.
The EMD process also indicate if instructions need to be given to the caller, such as basic hemorrhage control, instructions on how to clear an airway obstruction, or even CPR instructions.
Here is some further information that you can self educate yourself about Emergency Medical Dispatch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_medical_dispatcher
Now I can certainly say that you as a citizen are getting the highest level of service from your rescue squad and its administration and membership. I would include the fire departments in that also, but its hard to ensure with so many departments.
Now, Leroy I believe you wanted to know why so many departments are dispatched to a single call. I will assume you are referring to a medical emergency BUT I will address both. In an medical emergency call, a County Paramedic Ambulance is dispatched, the local Fire Department first responders, and the rescue squad. If it is a emergency that falls into certain specific perimeters, the Paramedic Supervisor or EMS Administration personal can also be dispatched.
The First responders from your Fire Department are dispatched because they are commonly right around the corner or a short distance away. This commonly cost the tax payer NOTHING because these volunteers are responding in their own vehicles burning their own gas.
The County's paramedic units are funded with your tax dollars but I cant see anyone in there right mind complaining about them. Yes they do bill your insurance company IF and ONLY if you are transported to the hospital. This helps cover the price of vehicle maintenance and fuel. NO billing your insurance will not nearly cover all the cost of maintaining, stocking, and staffing an ambulance. Last I heard, medicare pays a max of $80. Medicaid is something like $35.
Now as far as the rescue squad. They are dispatched to every call. That does not mean they are responding. The rescue squad has 3 stations. The main station in Yadkinville houses the meeting room, the Heavy Rescue truck, Medium rescue truck, the Boats, 2 basic level ambulance (which is not staffed only responds when 2 members are present) and additional vehicles to tow the TRENCH RESPONSE UNIT, BOATS, ATV's, OR Structural Collapse Trailer. Both outlying stations (Fall Creek & Hamptonville) house Medium Rescue Units. They have these outlying stations because members are spread out throughout the county. So for instance, if a bad wreck is dispatched on I-77 near Jonesville, the member living in Hamptonville or fall creek can go to that outlying station to get a truck enroute instead of having to take the time to travel all the way to Yadkinville to pick up equipment. Keep in mind, that if your the one who's leg is pinned inside that vehicle all mangled up on I-77, do you really want to have to wait for someone to have to drive from Hamptonville to Yadkinville THEN back to Jonesville? So these additional stations are for your benefit. NOW keep in mind, then I say outlying station, what im talking about is concrete slab, with a metal ribbed structure that is big enough for one vehicle.
In conclusion about the rescue squad, I know you are VERY fortunate to have the members that you do, most are well trained in specialty situations that takes alot of time to be certified in. To top that off, they get NO pay for their efforts or cost of training and as a citizen, the county as of a few years ago, ONLY gave the rescue squad 30 Thousand to cover all cost. The rest of their budget comes from fund raising and donations. You are by FAR getting your moneys worth.
Now to the Fire Departments.......... I cant say they always do the smartest or most efficient thing 24-7. BUT that goes with any fire department paid or volunteer. It takes alot of team work and cooperation to properly manage a working fire.
A working fire can be very stressful, first you dont know who else is coming because it is a volunteer department. Most times, on a working structure fire, you have 3 departments on initial dispatch. The local department, plus the next to departments. This is for several reasons. First is its unknown how many volunteers are available. Second, the longer you wait to call for help, the longer it will take additional help to arrive. Thats additional time your property is burning. If it is a rural area, they might have to set up a drop tank relay and/or initiate a dry hydrant. Both situations requires dedicating atleast one engine to each operation. IF it is a drop tank operation that is needed, SEVERAL tanker trucks are needed. So if you have a fire say in rural boonville say Dobbins road, you can see tankers from Boonville, Arlington, Fall Creek, South Surry, or even more. Just because multiple departments are dispatched, if they get started enroute, fire trucks can always be turned around. Its always better to have more resources coming to you then you need then not have enough.
No matter what you think you see or how upset you are that the road is closed and you have to go around taking 5 more min of your life, I assure you what ever it is, is being done with the best intentions for the fire fighters safety and your safety.
Now that I have lost my train of thought, Ill give you a chance to respond.
JohnQPublic
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True
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Posted 6:40, 05/07/2010
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JQP. Tell me why there was a 911 call just yesterday. The 911 call was a --snake in some womens bathtub==YADKIN DISPATCH sent 3 Yadkin co. deputys to this house. This is what Leroy is talking about. --EXPLAIN THIS ---.
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True
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Posted 6:43, 05/07/2010
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JQP. Tell me why there was a 911 call just yesterday. The 911 call was a --snake in some womens bathtub==YADKIN DISPATCH sent 3 Yadkin co. deputys to this house. This is what Leroy is talking about. --EXPLAIN THIS ---.
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dingo59
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Posted 8:3, 05/07/2010
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JQ Public - you are exactly right. I do emergency dispatch every day (not for Yadkin Co) and it is amazing how much the public don't know and how they feel they have the right to call in at any time just to ask what a call they heard was about and where. I assure you we do not have the time to answer these questions not to mention the patience most of the time. Every call is disptched with all the care in the world to make sure the right kind of help gets to the call as soon as possible with safety for the requestor & the responding units as the #1 priority.
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InTheMiddle
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Posted 8:11, 05/07/2010
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JohnQPublic: Very good post but your wasting your time on trying to explain things to people who constantly complain.
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Grams
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Posted 10:54, 05/07/2010
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jqp, you said medicare pays $80?? Where did you get that number from? I am looking at my Mom's recent medicare summary and Yadkin Co billed medicare $715.00 to transport her to Winston and medicare approved $655.94 and paid their 80% of $524.75 and her supplement paid $131.19. I called the regular EMS number and told them the only thing I needed was an amublance transport with medics-nothing else (which is what came) because she was in so much pain I could not get her in my car.
Not only that but a couple years ago, I called them because she was in a diabetic coma. When they got to her home they gave her an IV and brought her out of it but she was sick and would not eat and 4 hours later I had to call them back and have her transported to Hugh Chatham. Medicare paid one bill and I paid the other one because she was TWICE billed and I was told that is their policy and I had no choice but to pay!! So where did you information come from?
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Big Kahuna
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Posted 14:5, 05/07/2010
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Grams jqp is one of those people that thinks he is more intelligent than others on this site simply by them questioning the system.
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LeRoy B...
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Posted 14:44, 05/07/2010
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John B, I now see why that old Farmer Kicked you BUTT at the Y'ville court house. You knew he had more acreage than he said he had.hahaha!! Have a good day down in Polk county..
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JohnQPublic
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Posted 16:18, 05/07/2010
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True, I can appreciate your frustrations in which I do share. Due to I do not have any experience in law enforcement operations, I can not truely justify sending 3 deputies to a snake.
BUT I can tell you this, IT DOESNT MATTER WHY ANYONE CALLS 911....... that dispatcher has to send someone. If it is after 8-5 or their is not a animal control officer on call, only option that dispatcher has is to send a deputy or town LEO.
I know nothing about the call your referring to other then what you have told me here, If my mother was backed into a corner in the kitchen, with a cotton mouth snake staring her down (yes it is possible because cotton mouths are aggressive) I would much rather have that dispatcher send a deputy who is atleast armed to my house instead of having to wait 1-2hrs for animal control to show up.
Why send 3 deputies..... I have no idea. Maybe they were board.
Dingo... Thanks I tried to cover all basis.
Grahams, I am actually puzzled by your post. I have always been told it was a fixed dollar amount from medicaid and I THOUGH medicare. I have never claimed to know all, anyone who does is a fool, it is possible I was wrong and I dont argue that fact concerning the dollar amount with medicare. Maybe it was 80%. Maybe its changed. I can not give you solid answer, I dont hold a current position in medical billing. BUT I can confirm 2 things. First, I have NEVER....... EVER..... heard of a county EMS system billing for the situation you described that I am very familiar with. Ofcourse I am speaking of when your loved one goes into insulin shock. For anyone who is unfamiliar, insulin shock is commonly experience when you have a type 1 diabetic who requires an insulin injection every day sometimes several times a day. In type 1 diabetes your pancreas stops making insulin which is required for glucose to enter cells for fuel. Even a slight miscalculations in an insulin dosage can cause alots of havoc on a celluar level. This is commonly when your loved one goes unconscious due to, to much insulin, not enough glucose. The quick fix, is to initiate intravenous access and administer a drug called Dextrose, aka D50. This puts a quick rush of glucose to match the increased insulin. Once conscious again, the patient has to eat something with lots of protein. Most commonly a peanut butter sandwich. D50 is a QUICK fix. It will not sustain or fix the problem. The patient still have to eat enough to counteract the increased insulin. The most common mistake is leaving the patients insulin pump on. Grahams... I DONT KNOW and Im not saying this is what happen to your loved on, BUT thats the easiest scenario. If your loved one did not eat enough to still deal with the increased insulin or if she has a insulin pump and it was left on, thats gonna happen.
Getting back to the billing, I have NEVER EVER seen one county system send out a bill for a "treat and release" call. Same as when your loved one dies, and EMS uses a number of drugs and equipment...... I have yet to hear about a service billing in that instance either. Once again, im not saying its not possible but in my professional career which is only employment is 3 of the 100 counties, I do have lots of eyes and ears accounting for atleast 20 or more of the 100 counties (which all dont have county ems services) everyone has agreed about my statements about billing or lack their of. Im still getting multiple answers on the medicare question.
Next, they told you your only choice was to pay it? My first question is "WHY WAS I DOUBLE BILLED?" Second, "Does Yadkin County do aggressive billing?"
I can say for a FACT that yadkin does not do aggressive billing. So if the only thing you do is pay them a dollar a month, they will take it and smile. I know alot of people that wont even pay their EMS bill because they know after the 3rd notice its going to be dropped and written off.
Big Kahuna, I dont remember pulling your string.... :-P, second what system am I questioning this time? I'm taking my valuable time to attempt to ruffly educate you slightly, hopefully wiping away some of your ignorance concerning emergency services.
Leroy, BAHAHAHAHAHAHA I still love the fact that you assume who know who I am. Never been to Polk County...... Try again.
JohnQPublic
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Big Kahuna
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Posted 17:0, 05/07/2010
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jqp I'm showing my ignorance what a laugh!
I posted - simply by THEM (not you) questioning the system. By THEM I meant other posters.
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Big Kahuna
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Posted 17:5, 05/07/2010
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Grams is your mom on insulin??? After jqp's lengthy explaination I was just wondering because I didn't think she was and I thought she was a Type II diabetic.
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Grams
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Posted 17:32, 05/07/2010
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jqp, I don't care what you have seen or heard or what your experience is. My Mom is a TYPE 2 DIABETIC AND HAS NEVER TAKEN AN INSULIN SHOT SO ALL YOUR DETAIL DOES NOT APPLY.
I just told you I was looking at her medicare summary for the charges when I made my first post and I have the canceled check as proof that I paid the bill when she was billed twice and I also have the medicare summary for that time showing they paid also. Dale Trivette and Brent Hawks BOTH told me my mother was responsible for one of the bills when I met with them and they billed for EVERY CALL THE EMS MADE TRANSPORT OR NOT and I would NEVER not pay something for her. A dollar a month is not how I conduct mine nor her personal business. That is the reason those of us that do pay our bills are taxed to damn death because of the ones you just described.
Maybe since you are so sure of what Yadkin does and how things work you can convince Dale and Brent to change their policy.
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little voices in my head
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Posted 17:37, 05/07/2010
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"Now that I have lost my train of thought, Ill give you a chance to respond.
JohnQPublic"
wow! we are so blessed.
yea kahuna talk about a lengthy explanation. i got a headache just passing by his comment. i'd get a migraine if i actually read it. my little voices in my head can't handle all those words lol.
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little voices in my head
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Posted 17:40, 05/07/2010
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johnqpublic - did you ever work at r.e. michel co.?
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JohnQPublic
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Posted 18:17, 05/07/2010
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Graham, ONCE AGAIN!
Thats why I said...."most commonly" I went on to state "I DONT KNOW and Im not saying this is what happen to your loved one, BUT thats the easiest scenario"
What part of that, I was specifically speaking about your mothers condition?
Goodness gracious, LVIMH is back, it feels like I've just stumbled into a bar hosting the village idiot reunion.
Grahams: I'm not going to call what your saying about the account of your conversations about the current policy's a falsehood, BUT I cant say I believe it either. I find it that they bill for every call HIGHLY unlikely. I find it more likely you went in with a hostile attitude and you heard/remember what you want to, and easily forget what you want to. And no I do not expect us to agree.
Ok, so the easiest scenario didnt fit. It doesnt discount that earlier statement, from what you have said, she was still hypoglycemic (blood glucose under 60ml/dl) in which she went unconscious and still entered insulin shock. If she had been unconscious due to hyperglycemia or progressed into ketoacidosis, the treatment of starting an IV and administering anything via IV other then fluid would have been contra indicated and in fact would have made her condition worse.
Everything else except the possibility of being a type 1 diabetic still applys.
Being a type 2 diabetic only means that your pancreas is still making a small amount of insulin. Ill step out on that ledge and say that she takes metformin, glucaphage, or some other related medication that stimulates your pancreas to produce more insulin.
They could not legally release her from care, if she was not conscious, alert, and oriented or if she hadn't eaten anything after regaining consciousness. She had to refuse transport, sign the medical release/refusal form.
They can justify charging when transporting, MAYBE even when they are treating a diabetic emergency in a treat and release situation. BUT their is NO WAY anyone is getting charged for EVERY CALL. Someone who calls 911 so paramedics can check their blood pressure doesnt get charged a dime, nickel or penny. Just because someone calls 911 does not automatically generate a bill.
JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic
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Posted 18:19, 05/07/2010
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LVIMH: Nope, cant say I'm familiar with a "michel co"
JohnQPublic
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Grams
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Posted 19:36, 05/07/2010
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I didn't say they said EMS charged for every call they got, I said they charged every time they made went out on a call.
I can prove my statements by Dale Trivette and Brent Hawks plus I have letters that I wrote about this BBEFORE I met with Dale and Brent and I could care less what you think. Because someone knows something different from what you say, you want to insinuate they are lying. Why in the hell would I lie about something like this?
This conversation is not about my mother's condition at the time I called them or what medication she was taking, it is about being billed twice and how much the bill was.
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little voices in my head
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Posted 20:22, 05/07/2010
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Goodness gracious, LVIMH is back, it feels like I've just stumbled into a bar hosting the village idiot reunion.
lmao awww that is so sweet of you to remember me.
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JohnQPublic
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Posted 20:28, 05/07/2010
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Grams: "I didn't say they said EMS charged for every call they got, I said they charged every time they made went out on a call."
HUH! So you didn't say EMS charged for every call they got, but they charge every time they made went out on a call?????????????????????????
Kinda a double negative there!
To clarify, I am saying that they only charge when transporting a patient. You are saying they charge every time they step foot on your property no matter the outcome (refusal of transport or transport to a hospital)?
How can you prove your statements? Did you record the conversation?
I'm glad you have letters that you wrote about this before therefore your statements have to be true....... Ive got letters I wrote about a flying spaghetti monster!!!! {yes i stole that spaghetti monster from AME off another post} Im glad to know a written letter makes anything true!
You find me some factual physical proof, and ill start a new thread dedicated to giving you nothing but apologies and praise!
JohnQPublic
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Grams
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Posted 23:33, 05/07/2010
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I will be happy to meet you at the EMS office and we will ask Dale and Brent in person and I will bring my documentation as well. Would Monday morning, 9AM work for you? If not you just name the time and date and I will be there. If you aren't willing to do that, case closed. I don't need or want any apology from you.
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JohnQPublic
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Posted 12:57, 05/08/2010
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Grams: Next time I am in town, ill let you know should be in a few weeks.
JohnQPublic
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Grams
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Posted 14:24, 05/08/2010
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That will be just fine. I will be waiting. You need to give me a heads up a couple of days so I can make an appointment with Dale and Brent.
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that girl
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Posted 19:18, 05/08/2010
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Do they departments have gps? A few times I've heard on the scanner they can't find a house.
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hondagirl
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Posted 16:53, 05/10/2010
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that girl- sometimes the gps is off and the house numbers aren't clearly marked. We do the best we can though. Sometimes it helps if the caller tells us what color the house is, what kind of cars are in the driveway, etc if the house numbers are hard to see or hard to find.
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firefighter
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Posted 11:9, 07/03/2010
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does yadkin county fire depts. have a/b tones on our pagers
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me2
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Posted 18:58, 09/06/2010
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maybe im wrong, but eveyones tax dollars put these fire trucks in the stations, so shouldn't you be happier about getting it since you paid for it to be there anyway. I really can't believe some of these complaints. I for one would want more halp and not need it rather than not have it and need it. Now thats a lagitament complaint. I really hope there are not as many stupid people in YC as this topic makes me feel there are. Now that I think about it theres not that many. Because I always get a thanks or thank you after I run a call. Must be only a select few who have there head up their own a** like a few of you.
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walks the talk
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Posted 0:17, 09/07/2010
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^^^^^Just what all do you want from the public? you have volunteered for a job, taxpayers pay for it, and that's that. Anyone who pays taxes has a RIGHT..even a DUTY to question and/or discuss exactly where their money is going.
Yes, thanks to all who provide a community service AND do their best with my money Beyond that, just what do you want?
How dare you call taxpayers 'stupid' and having their 'head up their a**. That shows what little respect you have for the people, yet you need/want all these kudos and wows and bowing down. Amazing.
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me2
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Posted 7:57, 09/07/2010
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You have every right to see where your money is going! If you want to know, come by your local FD on as bus meeting night. If it is like my FD you will hear a financial report showing expenditures and deposits and where YOIR money went.
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me2
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Posted 8:8, 09/07/2010
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I don't expect anything from the citizens as a volunteer. i love volunteering. Im not complaining about it, even about those who don't care. I don't even expect a thankyou. Thats not how it works. Put it like this: if I run a call say at the jail for someone who say just happened to have hurt someone very badly and intentionally-if that person in jail has a heart attack or something he still gets the same level of care as say a 10 year old kid would. I don't want to say we don't care either way cause we do. A thankyou means a lot to us, but we don't expect it. All I expect is not to have our services questioned if you don't have your facts. by all means, please if you have any problems or questions about the services we offer, where your money goes, or whatever, come by and see. Please just don't assume by going by the opinions and assumptions most people post on this site. I promise over 90% of the stuff you read on this is crap. All im saying is we care about everyone no matter who you are or what. We like support and to know we have community support because thats where our FFs come from. They are also the community. Im not trying to cause a fuss. Just want everyone to know whats true and whats not.
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Stokes
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Posted 13:46, 09/07/2010
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You're not complaining? Sure could have fooled me.
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nobodyuknow
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Posted 20:22, 09/07/2010
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me2: Your wasting your time trying to get your point across to these yahoo`s. Keep up the good work. There`s plenty of support in YC for the FD`s.
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liberalbender
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Posted 0:42, 09/09/2010
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Just want to commend all those who work as firemen or EMT's for the great job you do. It does take time away from your families-not only the calls but the meetings, training, fund-raisers, etc. Thanks to each of you and your families for serving your communities.
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walks the talk
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Posted 2:28, 09/09/2010
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A huge 'thank you' to those who do a job without constantly bitching and desiring crowns and 'blowing their own trumpets'. You have my utmost respect, ESPECIALLY those in the MILITARY and their families..past and present.
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Grams
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Posted 10:24, 09/09/2010
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JohnQ, it has been 3 months - you haven't been in town in 3 months??
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