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infoguy

Posted 12:10, 01/02/2010

Obama went on a fishing trip and came back with a boat loaded with Suckers. It was easy
pickings for him cause suckers like the slick tongue he used for bait. Here are just a few
of the SUCKERS for OBAMA:

thebutcher76, Busted Flush, FED UP, liberalbender, commonsense, BAFEM,
smalltownman,coollittlehot, Athena, 68thunderbird are just a few that have fallen for the
silver tongue bait....

Obama did catch a few blowfish....BlizzardAge , 2cents and others

Obama has:
A Cabinet full of Suckers (and blowfish)
A House full of Suckers (and blowfish )
A Chamber full of Suckers(and blowfish)
And his tempoary house is staffed with Suckers (and blowfish)
Obama has help catching Suckers:
ACCORN, ABC,NBC,CBS, MSNBC,CNN, NY Times, Washington Post and many
others bait the hook for their master fisherman.

Obama may need to change his fishing techinque because some of the orginal Suckers
are getting away. They fell for the silver tongue bait, but are making independent moves
to flee, after realizing what Suckers they have been.

If you are an Obama Sucker or know of an Obama Sucker that would like to be added to
the list, please post it on this thread

snoopy	Posted 18:11, 01/02/2010
I love it infoguy.... what a thread to start!!!! obama has been fishing in international waters and netted a few "Nobel" Suckers there!!!!

Grams

Posted 21:36, 01/02/2010

Congress’s 237 millionaires
By Erica Lovely
Capitol News Company, LLC
Talk about bad timing. As Washington reels from the news of 10.2 percent
unemployment, the Center for Responsive Politics is out with a new report describing
the wealth of members of Congress.
Among the highlights: Two-hundred-and-thirty-seven members of Congress are
millionaires. That’s 44 percent of the body – compared to about 1 percent of Americans
overall.
CRP says California Republican Rep. Darrell Issa is the richest lawmaker on
Capitol Hill, with a net worth estimated at about $251 million. Next in line: Rep.
Jane Harman (D-Calif.), worth about $244.7 million; Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.),
worth about $214.5 million; Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), worth about $209.7 million;
and Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), worth about $208.8 million.
All told, at least seven lawmakers have net worths greater than $100 million,
according to the Center’s 2008 figures.
”Many Americans probably have a sense that members of Congress aren’t hurting,
even if their government salary alone is in the six figures, much more than most
Americans make,” said CRP spokesman Dave Levinthal. “What we see through
these figures is that many of them have riches well beyond that salary, supplemented
with securities, stock holdings, property and other investments.”
The CRP numbers are somewhat rough estimates – lawmakers are required to
report their financial information in broad ranges of figures, so it’s impossible to pin
down their dollars with precision. The CRP uses the mid-point in the ranges to build
its estimates.
Senators’ estimated median reportable worth sunk to about $1.79 million from
$2.27 million in 2007. The House’s median income was significantly lower and also
sank, bottoming out at $622,254 from $724,258 in 2007.
But CRP’s analysis suggests that some lawmakers did well for themselves between
2007 and 2008, even as many Americans lost jobs and saw their savings and
their home values plummet.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) gained about $9.2 million.
Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) gained about $3 million, Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii)
had an estimated $2.6 million gain, and Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) gained about
$2.8 million.
Some lawmakers have profited from investments in companies that have received
federal bailouts; dozens of lawmakers are invested in Wells Fargo, Citigroup,Goldman Sachs, and Bank of America.

FU, I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THIS RICH DEMOCRAT LIST OF CONGRESSMEN.

lucifer	Posted 8:59, 01/03/2010
Grams...Thanks for that revealing information. Rich Suckers.It is good for OBAMA SUCKERS like FED UP to read...if they will!!

FED UP

Posted 9:57, 01/03/2010

Grams, you pitiful old bag, wrote "FU, I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THIS RICH DEMOCRAT LIST OF CONGRESSMEN"
Bless your shriveled up little heart, Grams. I did as you asked and found a total of 9 congressmen and senators listed.
Am I missing something here, Grams, or is your statement typical of republican intelligence?
Out of the 9 named, 5 were democrats and 4 were republicans.
Please, Grams, explain how that is a LIST OF RICH DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMEN?
You too, lucifer...how is that "revealing information", as you call it, democratic Rich Suckers?
Hurry home from church, Grams. I know you are there praying for my misguided soul.

Stokes	Posted 11:10, 01/03/2010
Well, FU, you are always talking about the rich republicans, I guess you can drop that lie thanks to Grams. I didn't know that you knew Grams but according to your personal description you are very well acquainted.

FED UP	Posted 11:53, 01/03/2010
Rich republicans...I'd guess you're one, aren't ya, Stoke? As for Grams, ask her...I'm not tellin'.

lucifer	Posted 12:21, 01/03/2010
FED UP...you took the bait like a good SUCKER and admitted there are ALSO RICH DEMOCRATS...THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!! I'M sure obama is PROUD to have you as one of his faithful working OBAMA SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grams	Posted 14:48, 01/03/2010
Stokes, I assure you I do not know that sob. He always responds with some BS like he did above when someone proves his statements are lies.

SBD

Posted 15:10, 01/03/2010

I voted Democrat, because

I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want.

I've decided to marry my horse.

I voted Democrat, because

I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are

obscene, but the government taxing the same gallon of gas

at 15% isn't.

I voted Democrat, because

I believe the government will do a better job of

spending the money I earn than I would.

I voted Democrat, because

Freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

I voted Democrat, because

When we pull out of Iraq I trust that the bad guys will stop what

they are doing, because they now think we are good people.

I voted Democrat, because

I'm way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know that my local

police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.

I voted Democrat, because

I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday can

tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if

I don't start driving a Prius.

I voted Democrat, because

I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long

as we keep all death row inmates alive.

I voted Democrat, because

I think illegal aliens have a right to free health care,

education, and Social Security benefits.

I voted Democrat, because

I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for

themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to

the government for redistribution as the democrats see fit.

I voted Democrat, because

I believe liberal judges need to rewrite The Constitution every few

days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas

past the voters.

I voted Democrat, because

My head is so firmly planted up my ass that it is unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.

little voices in my head	Posted 15:19, 01/03/2010
you should have married a democratic donkey ha ha ha.

FED UP	Posted 16:13, 01/03/2010
Grams...what lies?

Duke

Posted 17:24, 01/03/2010

I find it so interesting that FED UP attacked the statement "RICH DEMOCRAT CONGRESSMEN" made by Grams in order to try to discredit the fact that on the list were RICH DEMOCRATS (no matter how you spin it). Typical liberal attempt to shield the TRUTH when everyone knows that there are RICH CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS of both parties.Liberals like FED UP have trouble admitting to the truth sometimes. It is obvious that FED UP is a LIBERAL SUCKER FOR OBAMA!!! And HE/SHE can't spin that!!!

SBD	Posted 18:6, 01/03/2010
you were taken

little voices in my head	Posted 18:11, 01/03/2010
ha ha ha ha

FED UP	Posted 18:33, 01/03/2010
Hey, Duke..I DO realize there are rich congressmen of both parties. Apparently you and Grams don't. When Grams sees a list of 5 democrats and 4 republicans and calls it a "list of rich democrats" I just wondered how she came up with that. Maybe you, in your infinite Yakkin' county wisdom, can enlighten me.

duke

Posted 8:10, 01/04/2010

FED UP....If you can use the liberal/democrat trick of parsing words made famous by Bill Clinton..so can we. You know and so does everyone else KNOW that Grams was referring to the fact there ARE/WERE RICH DEMOCRATS on the list.So she left of the word SENATORS. You were just trying to divert the attention away. But, that trick is old. Why don't you liberal democrats get a new play book. SUCKERS like you take the bait so easy. KEEP ON SUCKING IN 2010!!!

infoguy	Posted 22:14, 01/04/2010
New Special Sucker for Obama Amanda Simpson..Obama's Transgender Appointee for Commerce Department!!!

little voices in my head	Posted 22:26, 01/04/2010
is this person gonna be another monica with obama?

NO NO	Posted 22:34, 01/04/2010
I bet politicaljunkie and Mr/Ms Simpson are 'close'. I see they were both delegates at the DNC. Of course Simpson supported Clinton while junkie was/is an Obamaniac, but I'm sure they were able to lay down their 'swords' at certain times.

infoguy	Posted 23:29, 01/04/2010
Talking About a Sucker on Staff for Obama Kevin Jennings, a homosexual activist who was appointed to supervise the Education Department's Office of Safe Schools

Grams

Posted 14:31, 01/05/2010

C-SPAN Challenges Congress to Open Health Care Talks to TV Coverage

FOXNews.com

The head of C-SPAN has implored Congress to open up the last leg of health care reform negotiations to the public, as top Democrats lay plans to hash out the final product among themselves.

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Jan. 31, 2008: Sen. Barack Obama helps Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton to her seat before the start of a Democratic presidential primary debate in Los Angeles. (AP Photo)
The head of C-SPAN has implored Congress to open up the last leg of health care reform negotiations to the public, as top Democrats lay plans to hash out the final product among themselves.

C-SPAN CEO Brian Lamb wrote to leaders in the House and Senate Dec. 30 urging them to open "all important negotiations, including any conference committee meetings," to televised coverage on his network.

"The C-SPAN networks will commit the necessary resources to covering all of the sessions LIVE and in their entirety," he wrote.

Congressional leaders, however, reportedly are expected to bypass the traditional conference committee process, in which lawmakers from both parties and chambers meet to reconcile differences between the House and Senate versions of a bill. Instead, The Associated Press reports that top Democrats at the House, Senate and White House will figure out the final product in three-way talks before sending it back to both chambers for a final vote.

This format would seem ideal for closed-door meetings, which congressional Democrats have used many times to figure out sensitive provisions in the health care bill -- though President Obama pledged during the campaign to open up health care talks to C-SPAN's cameras.

"That's what I will do in bringing all parties together, not negotiating behind closed doors, but bringing all parties together, and broadcasting those negotiations on C-SPAN so that the American people can see what the choices are," Obama said at a debate against Hillary Clinton in Los Angeles on Jan. 31, 2008.

Asked about the request to Congress, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said he hadn't seen the letter.

"I know the president is going to begin discussions today on health care to iron out differences between the House and Senate bills," he said.

Lamb urged Congress in his letter to fling open the doors in the final stretch of the negotiations.

"President Obama, Senate and House leaders, many of your rank-and-file members, and the nation's editorial pages have all talked about the value of transparent discussions on reforming the nation's health care system," he wrote. "Now that the process moves to the critical stage of reconciliation between the chambers, we respectfully request that you allow the public full access, through television, to legislation that will affect the lives of every single American."

Lamb said his network would use "the latest technology" to be "as unobtrusive as possible" during the talks.

Grams

Posted 14:42, 01/05/2010

U.S. to Suspend Gitmo Detainee Transfers to Yemen

FOXNews.com

The U.S. will not transfer any detainees from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to Yemen right now, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Tuesday.

The U.S. will not transfer any detainees from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to Yemen right now, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Tuesday.

Ninety detainees in Gitmo are from Yemen, which is combating a resurgent Al Qaeda.

Alleged Christmas Day bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab is also said to have gotten training in Yemen before carrying explosives on a Northwest flight from Amsterdam to Detroit. His attempt to detonate the bomb was foiled when his device malfunctioned and he was tackled by a passenger.

"One of the very first things Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula used as a tool was Gitmo," Gibbs said. "We're not going to make transfers to a country like Yemen that they're not capable of handling (the detainees). While we remain committed to closing the detention facility, the determination has been made that right now any additional transfers to Yemen is not a good idea."

The announcement comes as President Obama misses his original deadline for closing the facility -- a pledge he made on his first week in office.

Gibbs said court trials will begin for several individuals currently in Guantanamo Bay.

JUST ANOTHER ONE OF OBAMA'S LIES FOR YOU SUCKERS!

lucifer	Posted 9:24, 01/10/2010
WOW SOME OF THEM BIG SUCKERS ARE RUNNING AWAY FROM OBAMA....I GUESS HIS BAIT IS BEGINNING TO STINK!! DEMOCRAT SENATORS DODD AND DORGAN ARE NOT GOING TO SEEK RE-ELECTION !!!!

cowchip

Posted 10:17, 01/10/2010

Watch the liberals squeal when the Republican controlled congress (after the election) tries to correct all the mess the dumbocrats have caused.

Maybe you liberals should have remembered the old saying, "WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND.

There are a lot of blacks that are educated and, with enough common sense to be president. It is just a shame the democrats couldn't pick one of these, instead of a half breed racist liberal.

walks the talk	Posted 0:35, 01/11/2010
^^^^^Ditto!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

OOgie

Posted 12:45, 01/11/2010

Subject: Article: Solution to Airport Security, Health Care Woes - Borowitz 1/7/09
Full Body Scans to Double as Annual Checkups - Solution to Airport Security, Health Care Woes
by Andy Borowitz - The Borowitz Report - January 7, 2010
In what some in the White House are calling a "win/win" solution to the nation's airport security and health care reform problems, starting next month U.S. airports will begin conducting full body scans that will double as annual physical checkups.

President Obama announced the breakthrough solution, telling reporters, "With this all-purpose exam, we will be able to find everything from a hidden weapon to a spot on your lung."

After scanning a passenger, Mr. Obama said, "We will either give you a clean bill of health or wrestle you to the ground."

The President added that instituting the body scan/checkup could ward off some terrorists right from the start, "because a lot of them will balk at the $25 co-pay."

But according to Davis Logsdon, who studies terrorism and health care reform at the University of Minnesota, the body scans may attract more terrorists than they deter: "If there's one complaint that terrorists have about al-Qaeda it's that they have lousy benefits."

Elsewhere, a new book claims that actor Warren Beatty slept with 13,000 women, making him the second-ranked golfer in the world. ++

SBD	Posted 22:20, 01/12/2010
Obama lies--watch and weep suckers http://thetruthnews.info/lies.html

FED UP	Posted 6:53, 01/13/2010
Obama lies????...Looks like more Bush/ Cheney lies than Obama.

lucifer	Posted 8:18, 01/13/2010
FED UP...THANKS FOR ADMITTING THAT OBAMA DID/DOES LIE. YOU MAY BE RUN OUT OF SURRY COUNTY FOR THAT STATEMENT AGAINST YOUR FAVORITE FISHERMAN. I AM SURE THAT YOU COULD FIND A PLACE IN THE YADKIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER,IF YOU DON'T MIND EATING CROW!SUCKERS CAN EAT CROW CAN'T THEY?

FED UP	Posted 8:52, 01/13/2010
lucifer...there you go again...reading something into something that's not there...typical republican...where did I say I admitted Obama lies? Even if he did, I wouldn't give you hyenas the satisfaction of agreeing with you.

lucifer	Posted 9:37, 01/13/2010
FED UP...I have always been taught that words mean things in your post you stated "Obama lies????...Looks like more Bush/ Cheney lies than Obama." I will highlight your words "Looks like MORE Bush/Cheney lies THAN Obama" In plain English that is saying Obama lied..spin it anyway you want to SUCKER!

hambone

Posted 9:48, 01/13/2010

FED UP Posted 8:52, 01/13/2010
lucifer...there you go again...reading something into something that's not there...typical republican...where did I say I admitted Obama lies?
Even if he did, I wouldn't give you hyenas the satisfaction of agreeing with you.

fu, how can you say others turn things around. You were asked a question that you would or could not answer. You turned that question around to be about you each time. It would seem you are the one turning things around. Seems like you are lying again.

FED UP	Posted 11:38, 01/13/2010
lucifer...you didn't highlight MY words, you highlighted YOUR words. Y'all really are obsessed with spinning...you'll twist anything to get it to mean what you want it to...

nasty	Posted 11:52, 01/13/2010
fu, you turn everything around. You twisted a question 4 different ways, and still were not smart enough to answer it. Is this doubletalk something you learned on Fox News?

lucifer	Posted 13:21, 01/13/2010
FED UP..SO YOU ARE SAYING THESE ARE NOT YOUR WORDS OR WILL YOU LIE ABOUT IT? FED UP Posted 6:53, 01/13/2010 Obama lies????...Looks like more Bush/ Cheney lies than Obama. AND TO PLAY YOUR GAME I WILL HIGHLIGHT YOUR WORDS Obama lies????...Looks like MORE Bush/ Cheney lies THAN Obama.

earl	Posted 13:53, 01/13/2010
lucifer....I think you got FED UP on that one..He did admit that Obama lied...just like anyone who can read or hear would know. The lies came from Obams's mouth....that makes them TRUE LIES...RLMAO

infoguy	Posted 17:32, 01/15/2010
I am amazed that more OBAMA SUCKERS are not posting their names on this thread. I just knew that they would be happy to admit how proud they are of their silver tongued fisherman and let us all know who they are. Again, if you are an OBAMA SUCKER or know of any, please list the name or names on this thread.

FED UP	Posted 19:0, 01/15/2010
lucifer, do you know what a question mark means? It means the sentence written or spoken ASKS A QUESTION!!! My sentence was "Obama lies"? That means, you ********, I'm ASKING A QUESTION, not making a statement. What don't you understand about that?

liberalbender

Posted 19:14, 01/15/2010

Yes, I voted for President Obama...and I am happy to admit that and proud that he is OUR President. I am sorry that many of you cannot and will not accept that FACT. I fail to understand why you feel it is necessary to belittle and berate those who do not agree with your conservative right wing agenda. YOU LOST!!
And why do you act surprised that there are rich Demo's? Did you think the Kennedy's were poor? Since Repubs must be poor(going by your posts), do you need to take up collections for Bush I, Bush II, and the rest?
Your attempts to be cute with your word play are falling short. If all you President Obama haters would spend half the time you waste on copying & pasting and spend it on coming up with solutions to our problems...we would get out of this mess he inherited much faster. Oh, sorry, that would require that you think on your own and not parrot someone else.

Infoguy	Posted 19:16, 01/15/2010
FED UP...You can try to spin it all you want, but lucifer caught you. Reads like you are comparing Bush/Cheney with Obama when you say More Than. And as most of us know you were saying Bush/Cheney lied MORE THAN OBAMA. Even Gary York can understand that!!!!

us	Posted 22:14, 01/15/2010
What has happened to all the suckers that use to post here on a regular basis..are they too busy enjoying the "CHANGE" ???

jake brake	Posted 22:40, 01/15/2010
I got a little change in my pocket goin' jing-a-ling-a-ling Wants to call you on the telephone baby, a-give you a ring But each time we talk, I get the same old thing Always no hugg-ee no kiss-ee until I get a weddin' ring My honey my baby, don't put my love upon no shelf She said don't hand me no lines and keep your hands to yourself

KateRauhauserSmith	Posted 23:18, 01/15/2010
Infoguy ... you said: I am amazed that more OBAMA SUCKERS are not posting their names on this thread. I just knew that they would be happy to admit how proud they are of their silver tongued fisherman and let us all know who they are. Again, if you are an OBAMA SUCKER or know of any, please list the name or names on this thread. Hi. Look up. That's my name. I've never hidden who I am.

nasty	Posted 23:34, 01/15/2010
I don't know anyone, other a hand full of liberals, that are stupid enough to admit they voted for barry hussein.

walks the talk	Posted 1:42, 01/16/2010
libbender: That thug-liar-scum-cess pool barry hussein is not MY president. I despise him. And you are just another one of the 'broken records': "WAAA-WAAAA, poor obamessiah inherited a mess, waaa-waaa, everyone should work on solutions (huh?!), waa-waa, shame on copy and paste, waa-waa, uh, uh." Oh, yeah, bender, THAT is thinking on your own!

KateRauhauserSmith

Posted 8:0, 01/16/2010

Walk, this is a serious question. I'd really like to understand the distinction being made by so many conservatives here and I would appreciate it if you would offer your thoughts.

The wars, international diplomatic issues and domestic and international economic situation as well as the original round of stimulus legislation were solidly in place before Pres. Obama was elected.

Why is it not fair to note that he inherited both the collected mess they represent and the beginnings of the stimulus he's had to work with?

FED UP	Posted 8:36, 01/16/2010
Kate, you're wasting your time. These people won't even admit 9/11 happened on Bush's watch!!!!

wizard

Posted 10:35, 01/16/2010

kate, if the stimulus package was if effect before obama took office. then explain why he is taking all the credit.
If the democrats think the republicans are so out of touch, why use a plan the republicans devised?
Also, the way he is lying to the citizens seems to be the major problem most people have with obama. Things like transparency of policy, showing health care debates on c-span. It does seem anything he does that makes HIM look bad, gets spun to try and make him look good.

liberalbender	Posted 12:54, 01/16/2010
If the Repubs devised the plan-why are they all but one voting no?

KateRauhauserSmith

Posted 15:36, 01/16/2010

Wizard, I'm not sure where you're coming from here but just a straight up response to your post ...

The stimulus package has its roots in the failure of investment bankers in 2008. The presidential election, you might remember, was held in Nov of that year, eight months later.

I found a pretty decent timeline of the stimulus package and a bunch of other information about the economic situation at this site:

http://www.stimuluspackagedetails.com/time.html

As to Pres. Obama 'taking credit' ... well, he's the one making decisions about it now. Credit or blame, it falls on his doorstep.

Why are the Dems working with a plan set up by the Republicans? Because that's the legislation they had to work with ... it's bad enough without going back and mucking it up further.

And I patently don't agree with the last part of your post so have nothing to say about it.

wizard

Posted 16:25, 01/16/2010

"And I patently don't agree with the last part of your post so have nothing to say about it."

Also, the way he is lying to the citizens seems to be the major problem most people have with obama. Things like transparency of policy, showing health care debates on c-span. It does seem anything he does that makes HIM look bad, gets spun to try and make him look good.

So, kate, you are saying obama lying about the transparency of his office is not an issue with you? Are you disagreeing that the American people are fine with obama lying to them?

wizard	Posted 16:31, 01/16/2010
http://www.stimuluspackagedetails.com/time.html As far as this web site, it shows Bush spent in two years 832 billion. It also shows obama in less than one year, has spent 1,123 billion, plus 2 trillion. Very good web site.

KateRauhauserSmith	Posted 18:6, 01/16/2010
Wizard, I don't agree that Pres. Obama is lying. And yes, it is a good web site.

slab	Posted 22:33, 01/16/2010
Kate, Obama did lie to us.

KateRauhauserSmith	Posted 23:49, 01/16/2010
Slab, specifically when?

Stokes

Posted 23:59, 01/16/2010

Obama said 8 times during his campaign that he would have the healthcare debate on cspan. You don't think this was 8 times he lied?

Now in this Obamacare if a small business doesn't furnish health insurance to his employees he must pay a penalty on gross payroll yet Obama said he would not raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000.00. You do not call that a lie??

He said he would bring all the troops home from Iraq yet he is sending them to Afghanistan. You do not call that a lie?

He said Gitmo would be closed in one year from his inaugration yet it is not closed. You don't call that a lie?

I could go on and on. Liar is a mild term for that thug.

wizard

Posted 6:11, 01/17/2010

""Wizard, I don't agree that Pres. Obama is lying.""

Well kate, you have now shown just how educated you are. It is hard to talk to a person that is in denial.
One prime example, the end of life provision for the elderly. The democrats started the "KILL GRANDMA" quote, instead of calling it what the republicans were talking about, "END OF LIFE PROVISION." The democrats were not lying when they said there was no kill grandma clause in the health care bill. They never mentioned the end of life provision everyone was talking about. Technically speaking, that wasn't a lie. The democrats were, to quote your phrase, comparing apples to fords.

It is useless for me to have a discussion with you, if you have no idea what a lie is.

FED UP	Posted 6:19, 01/17/2010
wizard, here's what a lie is...."The democrats started the "KILL GRANDMA" quote. You really are delusional, wizard.

hambone	Posted 8:0, 01/17/2010
wiz, you need to quit telling all these lies. You should clear your thoughts with fu before posting. That way, he can tell you what is a lie, and what isn't.

FED UP	Posted 8:4, 01/17/2010
Does that mean you think its not a lie, hambone?

FED UP	Posted 8:29, 01/17/2010
It's easy to tell when you guys are lying..when you're typing, you're lying. But this ain't Fox Cartoon Network. Where conservatives can lie and nobody calls 'em out on it.

infoguy

Posted 9:30, 01/17/2010

The biggest lie is the one liberals/democrats tell themselves that "Obama does/hasn't lie/lied. FED UP/Kate/liberalbender and other OBAMA SUCKERS refuse to admitt that Obama lied to get elected and the American people are seeing how much of a liar he is. That is why his poll numbers have tanked and Democrats are fighting for their survial using bribes and closed door meetings to get THEIR LIAR OBAMA what he wants. Obama does not have America on his mind...he has HIMSELF!!!! That is why you are OBAMA SUCKERS.

slab

Posted 9:42, 01/17/2010

Kate, I've posted this link before. http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/rulings/promise-broken/ Even if you only agree with ONE of them, he lied. Every politician lies. I am surprised you think he is above being a politician. The lobbyists and 5 days of public comment are the most dissapointing to me. But, I didn't fall for the promises in the first place. I was hoping he would be different and that he would turn us around, but he is failing miserably so far. I'm still giving him a little more time though, but he is still a liar.

slab

Posted 9:42, 01/17/2010

Stokes

Posted 9:57, 01/17/2010

FU, these are facts so Obama is the liar, not me.

Stokes Posted 23:59, 01/16/2010
Obama said 8 times during his campaign that he would have the healthcare debate on cspan. You don't think this was 8 times he lied?

Now in this Obamacare if a small business doesn't furnish health insurance to his employees he must pay a penalty on gross payroll yet Obama said he would not raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000.00. You do not call that a lie??

He said he would bring all the troops home from Iraq yet he is sending them to Afghanistan. You do not call that a lie?

He said Gitmo would be closed in one year from his inaugration yet it is not closed. You don't call that a lie?

I could go on and on. Liar is a mild term for that thug.

KateRauhauserSmith

Posted 10:15, 01/17/2010

Stokes, the things you list, in my opinion, are all statements he made during the campaign or early in his tenure of what he felt needed to be done or would be possible.

They are also situations where once Pres. Obama was in office and he had both more information and greater responsibility he came to understand those promises wouldn't be so simple to keep. There were more issues to be considered.

As a parent I might promise a trip to the shore for the family this summer. The reality of the electric bill from the first truly cold winter in a while might eat up all the available funds for that trip ... and we cannot go.

Was that a lie or a change in circumstances that make the trip impossible?

Pres. Reagan's assertion that he does not recall so much ... or, more to the point, the administration hiding his declining capacity was a lie.

Pres. Clinton insisting he "did not have sexual relations with that woman" was a lie.

Karl Rove outing Valerie Plame as a CIA operative and then denying it against all evidence to the contrary was a lie.

If it is possible, Stokes, I'd like you to watch this YouTube clip. And while you might not believe it, I'm not suggesting this as a confrontational thing. I offer it purely as a visual aide to you to explain some of my beliefs.

Yes it has an extreme agenda that I don't wish to forward. However, it presents a progression of clips concerning the Weapons of Mass Destruction argument from Pres. Bush, Vice Pres. Cheney, Sect. Rumsfeld, Sect. Rice and Gen. Powell in such a way that highlights why so many of us have such a visceral reaction to the Bush/Cheney administration.

Why I'm dumbfounded when people claim Pres. Obama lies yet support the last administration...

And yes, it is a clip of what I classify as lies. I don't mean about the WMD ... that was another case of better or different information. But how they handled that emerging fact.

They said one thing that turned out not to be true then claimed they never said that thing in the first place.

That was a lie.

KateRauhauserSmith

Posted 10:15, 01/17/2010

KateRauhauserSmith

Posted 10:15, 01/17/2010

KateRauhauserSmith

Posted 10:15, 01/17/2010

slab

Posted 10:32, 01/17/2010

Kate, broken promises are a lie. Even to your children or family. They may not be intentional.
So if you suggest that maybe in the summer you'll take a trip that is different than saying to little margaret "I promise you Margaret, we will go on a trip this summer."

Obama promised some of these things with conviction. When he looked me in the eyes in the debates and said look, there will not be any lobbyists in my administration... HE LIED. What new information would cause him to change his mind? That he needed their money?

slab

Posted 10:32, 01/17/2010

Stokes

Posted 10:52, 01/17/2010

Kate, I would not have expected any other kind of answer from you. My Daddy used to laugh and say: So and so will tell something 2 or 3 ways to keep from telling a lie. I guess that is your defense of your president.

HE IS A LIAR AND A THUG FROM THE CHICAGO DALY CESS POOL. Nothing you can say will change that. Why do you and all the other liberals want to go back and bring up Bush EVERY TIME the thug is called out? That is not a defense for him. That isn't even an excuse. That would be like Bush using Clinton for an excuse or a defense. There is no reason he could not have put the healthcare debate on cspan. That TV station even called him out. A lie is a lie is a lie but I am certainly not surprised at your explanation.

earl	Posted 11:3, 01/17/2010
slab and Stokes...what makes Obama's campaign promises lies is the simple fact he had no intention of keeping those promises. Why do we know that...he hasn't tried or attempted to keep the important ones. So he lied!!!!! and a lie by any other name is still a lie.

earl	Posted 11:3, 01/17/2010
slab and Stokes...what makes Obama's campaign promises lies is the simple fact he had no intention of keeping those promises. Why do we know that...he hasn't tried or attempted to keep the important ones. So he lied!!!!! and a lie by any other name is still a lie.

KateRauhauserSmith	Posted 11:8, 01/17/2010
Stokes, I wasn't offering anything as an excuse for anyone. If you see lies, that's fine. My point about former administrations was that the same folks who call Pres. Obama a liar seem intent on defending Pres. Bush. I was attempting to find out if this was true with you so I might gain some understanding of the reasons for that. Nothing more. Thank you.

KateRauhauserSmith	Posted 11:10, 01/17/2010
Slab, my response to you, which I posted some time earlier hasn't shown up. I apologize if it appears twice now but I wanted to be sure the response posted. Thank you for your response. Your explanation is fair enough. We have different definitions of what constitutes a lie because to me, intent is very important in making that distinction. But, as I say, fair enough. Thank you.

slab

Posted 12:28, 01/17/2010

Hi Kate, if I understand you correctly, I am understanding your definition of a lie to be if a person acts and then denies that act, then that is a lie. Do you also agree that if I promised my kids a trip in the summer knowing we were not going on a trip at the time I said it, that it also was a lie? I think you do, but wanted to make sure.

Now, are you saying that when Obama said no lobbyist will be in his administration that he didn't realize he would need them at the time he said it? That he had good reason after the fact to change his mind? Thanks.

KateRauhauserSmith

Posted 13:10, 01/17/2010

Slab, what I'm saying is that sometimes there are extenuating circumstances that make it necessary to do something different then stated. That's life. We all have to deal with that and accept disappointment. (as in the hypothetical promised trip derailed by unexpected bills)

If someone says or does a thing and then deliberately denies the act or that they ever said the thing in the first place (as in the claims of WMD as the primary reason to invade Iraq or the outing of Valerie Plame or the business with Monica Lewinsky ... you did it, you said it, don't deny it, that's a lie)

If someone says something but has no intention of following through on it. (as in your example of the promised trip that was never possible or intended) That is also a lie but for me to know that, it involves determining another person's mind and heart and I try not to make a practice of judging that.

I don't know the particularities of the lobbyists in Washington and Pres. Obama's administration but I dare say it's very difficult to get things done without the insiders ... and probably near impossible to swing a dead cat without hitting a dozen on any given day.

So, yes, I would say it is fair to say that is my opinion about lobbyists and Pres. Obama.

I hope that actually answers your questions. Thank you for furthering the conversation.

slab	Posted 14:37, 01/17/2010
Thanks Kate.. by the way, looks like the God thread got deleted in the process of removing the attacker's posts.

cowchip	Posted 14:52, 01/17/2010
kate, when obama bowed in China, then denied the fact, was that a mistake or a lie?

KateRauhauserSmith	Posted 16:33, 01/17/2010
Cowchip, I couldn't say as I didn't pay much attention to that whole curfluffle.

KateRauhauserSmith	Posted 16:39, 01/17/2010
Slab, yeah it does. Too bad. There was some pretty thought provoking posts on that thread. But if it's gone in the process of removing the recent noise, then it was a small price to pay.

cowchip

Posted 17:20, 01/17/2010

KateRauhauserSmith Posted 16:33, 01/17/2010
Cowchip, I couldn't say as I didn't pay much attention to that whole curfluffle.

AMAZING, why do you keep refering to a former president you say tells nothing but lies, then refuse to acknowledge obamas lies. As you have described obamas lies as mistakes that couldn't be helped, then I supposer you think no one lies, they are just mistaken.
You really are beyond belief with your liberal one lane mind!

KateRauhauserSmith

Posted 17:48, 01/17/2010

Cow, others have gone down this same garden path before with me. The two issues are entirely separate.

I post rational step by step examples of undeniable deceit on issues such as the reason for our invasion of Iraq (WMD) and Karl Rove's involvement in blowing Valerie Plame's cover as a CIA operative and I am accused of attacking a good president and following like a sheep.

Not true. I lived through those years and was paying attention.I have rarely been as offended as I was during those years with the repeated examples of obvious, manipulative and deliberate lies and misinformation.

In all cases thus far when folks tell me that Pres. Obama has lied the examples are issues that any incoming president has had where information and need of office have changed their minds or the reality of what they can or cannot do.

I did not read about the Chinese bow beyond the cursory bit ... I know it happened and I know some folks were very upset.

People lie. That is a given. I do not assign malice as often as some others do, however.

And, Cowchip, just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I'm at the other end of the political spectrum.

It really is beyond belief, to use your own terminology, how difficult a concept it is for Conservatives to get their mind wrapped around the concept that there is more to the world then one end of the string and the other.

I am not a liberal. I am a moderate just like the majority of Americans ... not associated with either extreme and able to see value from many parties ... and BS from them as well.

Stokes	Posted 18:29, 01/17/2010
Kate you do not know what moderate means, just my opinion.

KateRauhauserSmith	Posted 20:0, 01/17/2010
Stokes, yes it is and you're entitled to it. Doesn't make it any more correct than Cowchip. Perhaps it would be useful to know what you define a moderate to be.

slab	Posted 20:28, 01/17/2010
do you find it odd that if I were to address your post, I would have to call you by the name you chose, which means you would then be known by that name or the race you hate so much?

KateRauhauserSmith	Posted 6:32, 01/18/2010
It seems a few posts in this thread were deleted with the last of the garbage last night. KateRauhauserSmith

KateRauhauserSmith

Posted 6:36, 01/18/2010

And ... Stokes posted last evening

Stokes Posted 23:7, 01/17/2010

: copied from Kate's post

why so many of us have such a visceral reaction to the Bush/Cheney administration

To make sure that you understand MY feelings toward your president, you take your reaction to the previous administration and multiply a 100 times is how I feel about your president and his administration. Not only is he a liar and a thug, he IS INCOMPETENT. He has NEVER run anything. He was not in congress enough to even know how it works because he was too busy campaigning for president. He has been a state legislator and a community organizer for God's sake. He cares about NOBODY but himself. May God help this country survive until 2012 without the monetary system collasping.

To which I replied:

Stokes, fair enough. I would like to further discuss this topic with you. You know I disagree at this time but I do not seek to mock or belittle anyone. I have a sincere desire to understand opposing views.

Our past conversations haven't gone so well, though. Should you feel so moved, just let me know. If not, that's fine

slab	Posted 8:9, 01/18/2010
yep rats... they left my last one to the person instead of to you kate. Oh well.

KateRauhauserSmith	Posted 11:1, 01/18/2010
Slab I think it was this exchange: Slab posted last night: , 01/17/2010 Kate, do you think that the first Bush's campaign promise of "Read my lips, no new taxes" was a lie? To which I replied: Slab, I don't like to think so, which is to say that I like to think he thought he could do it. But, regardless, it was a damned foolish thing to say. Does that catch us up on the conversation?

slab

Posted 11:44, 01/18/2010

Yes, but then I posted this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read_my_lips:_no_new_taxes

and said something to the effect of whether obama lied or whether bush sr. lied or whether they both just broke promises, bush sr. lost the re-election bid partly to that, and I will remember Obama for what he said. Will I be able to believe him next go around? Next go around he will have been in office so he shouldn't make such foolish claims either right? Though I admit taxes may be more of a sore subject to many than lobbyists in an administration.

nasty	Posted 12:11, 01/18/2010
I can't grasp the idea that all liberals have. If a republican tells a lie, it is a lie. If a democrat tells a lie, it is not a lie. This is something I have trouble understanding.

infoguy	Posted 21:26, 01/19/2010
OBAMA SUCKERS LOSE THE KENNEDY SEAT IN MASS!!! REPUBLICANS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

slab	Posted 21:43, 01/19/2010
Well it just goes to show you the public is sick of the change we can believe in. If I was in Mass. and Virginia Foxx was running against the Dem. I would give her my vote to make a point and we all know how much I can't stand her. Looks like that's what happened.

walks the talk	Posted 2:16, 01/20/2010
infoguy: YEAH!!!!!!! Now that is change I can beleive in!!!

Infoguy	Posted 14:11, 01/20/2010
The new movement slogan: WHAT CAN BROWN DO FOR YOU

crap	Posted 16:25, 01/20/2010
If the dems can see it in mass nobody around here should have a problem seeing it.

LeRoy B...	Posted 16:29, 01/20/2010
slab i see in the above post you have SEEN the light. Glad to see you finally woke up!!!heheh. Now if we can keep this momutem moving we shall over come.

infoguy	Posted 17:17, 01/20/2010
One year ago today, Barack Hussein Obama was sworn in as the 44th President of the United States. He was hailed as the Messiah and treated like a Super Star. What a difference a year makes!!!!!!!!!!

KateRauhauserSmith	Posted 18:32, 01/20/2010
Nasty

KateRauhauserSmith	Posted 19:58, 01/20/2010
Nasty

KateRauhauserSmith

Posted 20:4, 01/20/2010

I'm not sure what has happened with the earlier posts coming through so incomplete ... here's one last try ...

Nasty posted on 1/18/2010

I can't grasp the idea that all liberals have.
If a republican tells a lie, it is a lie.
If a democrat tells a lie, it is not a lie.

Nasty, thank you. That's the first time someone on this list who generally disagrees with me has allowed that I am not a liberal. I appreciate it.

slab	Posted 21:46, 01/20/2010
seen the light Leroy? I do not like Foxx, but I don't like complete control by a party either. The best thing that could've happened was Brown winning the seat. I am extremely happy this shake-up happened. To hear/watch the media squirm today was the highlight of the past few years.

LeRoy B...	Posted 21:55, 01/20/2010
slab,, Have to agree with you on that one.. Now if they will let him vote maybe we can get some help in lowering the insurance. Maybe each state should have TORT.and doctors insurance would come down.

liberalbender

Posted 22:16, 01/20/2010

Please try to remember that all liberals are NOT Demos and all conservatives are NOT Repubs! I am an Independent and a liberal-I HAVE NO PARTY and All politicians lie...I don't care what party they claim...they make deals to further their own agenda. And we make them lie. We do not want to hear "I don't know"-we expect them to have an answer for everything. And it better be the right answer or they lose your vote. So they shift with the wind...meeting with AMA-I want to increase the fees you receive from Medicare...meeting with Seniors-I want to decrease drug cost and copays...meeting with Fortune 500-I want to reduce taxes. They fail to admit they can't do it all and make everyone happy and they hope you won't notice! And most don't. Or they jump on the politician who got caught with his/her pants down, failed to pay taxes, misused funds or whatever...in the hope that their misdeeds won't come to light. There is no difference in the parties-just a different name.
And with al this-we still have the best in the world.

wizard	Posted 22:42, 01/20/2010
You can say what you want, but the fact remains that obama has done more damage to this country in 1 year than any other president. obama makes Bush look like a genius. obama has wasted more money in 1 year than Bush did in 8 years. I know someone will remind me that Bush doubled the national debt. Don't forget to mention obama has quadrupled the national debt that Bush left.

Hot Dog	Posted 22:46, 01/20/2010
Yea, quadrupled it in only 1 year, it took Bush 8 years to double it. What in HADES will the next 3 years bring? I am scared to think about it.

KateRauhauserSmith

Posted 7:11, 01/21/2010

Lib, I found it very interesting listening to an article on NPR yesterday morning. They noted that while registered Democrats far outnumbered the registered Republicans in Mass. Independents carried the election.

It would be lovely if we could get off the outdated idea that we have a two-party system. With 300 billion people no two parties can hope to encompass the totality of our priorities and thinking.

cowchip	Posted 7:58, 01/21/2010
The population of the US in Janurary 2009 was 305,529,237 million people, not billion.

KateRauhauserSmith	Posted 9:34, 01/21/2010
Typos are lovely things.

Cainfan	Posted 10:27, 01/21/2010
Kate you seem to be a reasonable person will you go to the Groce for Sheriff post and give your opinon on the comments on the other posters about electing another Sheriff?

Duke	Posted 12:28, 01/21/2010
The World from Berlin The World Bids Farewell to Obama http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,673192,00.html

Stokes	Posted 12:33, 01/21/2010
Thanks for that article, Duke.

OOgie	Posted 14:44, 01/21/2010
This analysis certainly raises some questions. http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm

infoguy	Posted 11:30, 01/22/2010
RASMUSSEN: Obama Approval Index: -18 Strongly Approve 25% Strongly Disapprove 43% Total Approval: 45%

FED UP	Posted 12:18, 01/22/2010
RASMUSSEN? LMAO

Infoguy	Posted 13:57, 01/22/2010
FED UP....You know that LMAO means Losing My Allegiance (to) Obama!!!!

earl	Posted 16:6, 01/27/2010
OBAMA SUCKERS ARE WAITING TO GET THEIR MARCHING ORDERS FROM THEIR SILVER TONGUED FISHERMAN TONIGHT! THE NUMBER OF SUCKERS IS GETTING SMALLER AS THEY ARE FINDING OUT WHAT SUCKERS THEY HAVE BEEN!

Duke	Posted 23:55, 01/27/2010
A bored SUCKER Harry Reid Yawns During Obama's State Of The Union http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/01/27/harry_reid_yawns_during_obamas_state_of_the_union.html

Hot Dog	Posted 7:7, 01/28/2010
Did everyone see his crowd stand to thier feet and applaud his almost every word? That was ridicilous, nothing he said to me was that inspiring.

earl	Posted 7:15, 01/28/2010
They were afraid not to stand. obama would have some of his thugs take care of them. You know how they take care of things in Chicago.

earl	Posted 20:50, 01/28/2010
NEWS FLASH...FED UP has a new title. "FED UP THE PERFECT OBAMA SUCKER"

OOgie	Posted 9:14, 02/03/2010
Good news about Keith Olbermann. http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/the_fat_lady_sings_for_keith_o.html

Walks the Talk

Posted 2:3, 02/07/2010

At the National Prayer Breakfast Thursday, the commander in chief not only got a
sailor's name wrong, but couldn't figure out how to pronounce "corpsman." Yes, he
said "corpse-man."

Watch the video
(http://patriotpost.us/perspective/2010/02/05/obama-calls-navy-corpsman-a-corpse-man/
*****************************************
What a disgrace!
And insult to a MILITARY person!
And you obama suckers think this is ok?

Walks the Talk	Posted 3:38, 02/11/2010
"The president dismisses his lack of success by claiming he has not communicated his message enough. Really? I don't care how many news conferences you have, how many speeches you give, or how much money you spend on public relations, if the dog food is bad, the dogs won't eat it." --former Oklahoma Congressman J. C. Watts

FED UP	Posted 7:10, 02/11/2010
That's why the republicans got the hell beat out of 'em in the last election, walks.

Stokes	Posted 10:1, 02/11/2010
and that is the reason that you democrats will get the hell beat out of you this November. Your thug and his controlling minutemen, Pelosi and Reid have pissed away your opportunities and that shining star you elected in 2008 now has rust on it.

FED UP

Posted 11:15, 02/11/2010

Stokes, do you really think that the majority of voters agree with you and your fellow Beckerheads?
Anyhow, who do you have that could beat Obama? Your shining star,Palin?
Don't make me laugh...Americans are not THAT stupid, at least not the ones who have the ability to see through right wing lies and forwarded emails. The 30% of repubs who still believe Obama was born in Kenya is not enough, Stokes.
Oh, you'll win some house and senate seats, of course, but not enough to finish the job of destroying the country like you started.

earl	Posted 13:59, 02/11/2010
FED UP..If the Republicans got the "hell" bet out of them like you said then that puts them WAY ahead of all you liberals, right? You and your democrat liberal OBAMA SUCKERS are full of hell!!!!!and YOU show it with every post!!! FED UP THE PERFECT OBAMA SUCKER!!!!!

FED UP	Posted 15:40, 02/11/2010
Would you really like another dose of George W. Bush? You would, wouldn't you? SUCKER!!!!

Stokes	Posted 16:3, 02/11/2010
Stokes Posted 10:1, 02/11/2010 and that is the reason that you democrats will get the hell beat out of you this November. Try to keep up FU. I didn't know that your thug was running again this Nov. I only wish.

FED UP	Posted 16:27, 02/11/2010
Stokes, I knew what you meant....that's the reason I said you nutcases would probably win some seats in the house and senate this year. Just curious, Stokes....where do you think we would be right now if McCain/Palin had won the last election, and what do you think they would have done to get us out of the Bush mess?

wizard	Posted 16:39, 02/11/2010
There are two bright point to obama being elected president. 1-He has made sure Americans will never elect another black president. 2-He has done more to rip the democratic party apart than any Republican could have ever done. Thank you obama for your help!

FED UP	Posted 17:19, 02/11/2010
According to you...and your fellow Beckerheads.

earl	Posted 18:16, 02/11/2010
FED UP...This one is for you!!!! 'Miss Me Yet?' Billboard With Photo Of Bush Is Real; Not An Internet Trick http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/02/bush_miss_me_yet_billboard_is.html

FED UP	Posted 18:24, 02/11/2010
I know it's real...no one will take credit for it, the last I heard... The overwhelming answer is NO!!!!!

infoguy	Posted 18:44, 02/11/2010
Mary Teske, the general manager of Schubert & Hoey Outdoor Advertising reports, "The Bush Miss Me Yet? billboard was paid for by a group of small business owners who feel like Washington is against them. They wish to remain anonymous. They thought it was a fun way of getting out their message." "The overwhelming answer is NO" is only in YOUR mind FED UP!

earl	Posted 18:45, 02/11/2010
FED UP...obama's on-the-job-training is painful to watch isn't it?

FED UP	Posted 19:43, 02/11/2010
Since it's in Minnesota, maybe it's the queen of psycho's, herself, congresswoman MICHELLE BACHMANN!!!!!! Or, maybe even Senator AL FRANKEN.....i would LMAO

earl	Posted 23:14, 02/17/2010
ATTENTION OBAMA SUCKERS....YOUR MESSIAH (OBAMA) HAS TURNED IN A PARIAH!!!!!!!!!!!

duke	Posted 9:27, 02/18/2010
obama is a pariah for sure!!

SBD

Posted 11:54, 02/23/2010

Thursday, February 18th, 2010 at 19:23
Tags: 9 commentsCitizen Kenya – Veritas News Service Exclusive – 18Feb10
Veritas News Service Exclusive
18Feb10
Contributed by John Spoony
Citizen Kenya
or…
Agent Double-O Soul : WHO is he???

One thing he isn’t is a “natural born citizen” by definition of The Law Of Nations and more importantly, The Constitution For The United States Of America.
Confronted with a challenging fact, a typical pattern of communist strategy is denial through ridicule in hope of convincing the public that it’s false. If that doesn’t work they will try to defame the character of those who accuse them, to weaken their credibility. If that doesn’t work they will threaten their opponent in attempt to scare them away. If that doesn’t work they’re busted… Here’s a brief example, a microcosm if you will: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNEEcUVbLh8
Defenders of Obama’s fraudulent activities tend to regurgitate the standard propaganda fed catch phrases like “right wing extremists”, “out on the fringe”, “Oh, you like Bush better!”, etc. But despite the massive media campaign to convince America that Barack is unquestionably eligible to hold our federal government’s highest office – and that anyone of the MANY people from the US and abroad who have stepped up to challenge Barack’s failure to present the NECESSARY documents is in the extreme minority – a recent AOL poll suggests that 81% of America WANTS TO SEE HIS ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE. The truth of the matter is that dozens of legal complaints have been filed against Mr. Obama, including a group of over 200 military personnel.
Barack Hussein Obama has spent well over a million dollars in legal fees to keep his personal records and credentials sealed from public scrutiny. This includes school records, medical, passport, baptism, adoption records, legal clients and oh yeah, PROOF OF BIRTH! The very basic requirements for any American to hold office as the Commander In Chief of our great nation are that the candidate must be at least 35 years of age, must have at least 14 years of US residency AND must be a ‘natural born’ citizen of the United States Of America. Unfortunately for Mr. Obama, he has yet to prove that he is eligible for this position. What renders any argument over his birth place irrelevant is the FACT that he is not and cannot possibly be a natural born citizen – that is, if it’s even true that Barack Obama Sr., then a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies, is actually his father by birth. There are so many scandalous aberrations and Marxist implications within the historical data of a.k.a. Obama that I had to choose which pieces of the puzzle to cram into this short article. Let’s proceed…
From Whence Did He Come?

That’s the $64,000 question. Numerous sources implicate that he was born in Kenya on August 4th, 1961 to an 18 year old girl named Stanley Ann Dunham – then the story gets fuzzy. In September 2008, The Times Herald wrote of the first civil lawsuit filed against O by Philip J. Berg, a fellow democrat

earl	Posted 21:22, 02/26/2010
WHERE HAVE ALL THE OBAMA SUCKERS GONE?

Stokes

Posted 12:27, 03/07/2010

Look espeically at the last 2 paragraphs of this article. Unbelievable!!!

From Newsmax.com

4. Hillary’s Falklands Remarks Called ‘Betrayal’ of U.K.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has sparked tension with America’s closest ally, the United Kingdom, over comments she made regarding Britain’s dispute with Argentina over the Falkland Islands.

The islands in the South Atlantic have been a possession of Britain since 1833, and Britain went to war in 1982 to recapture the Falklands after Argentina — which claims the islands — invaded and seized them.

The sovereignty dispute took on new urgency recently when the U.K. decided to allow exploratory oil drilling 60 miles north of the islands, CNS News reported.

During her Latin American tour, Clinton stood beside Argentina’s President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner in Buenos Aires on Monday, and heard Kirchner say she would like her country to negotiate with Britain over the islands within the framework of United Nations resolutions.

Clinton agreed that the two sides should “sit down” and negotiate, and added, “If we can be of any help in facilitating such an effort, we stand ready to do so.”

The Argentine ambassador to the U.S., Hector Timerman, said he had never before heard “such substantial support” of Argentina from the U.S. over the Falklands dispute, according to CNS News.

A spokesman for the British government said in response to Hillary’s offer of American help, “We don’t think that’s necessary.”

Writing for Britain’s Daily Telegraph, Nile Gardiner — director of the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom at the Heritage Foundation — called Clinton’s remarks “an astonishing betrayal of the United Kingdom by her closest ally, and yet another slap in the face for Britain from the Obama administration.”

He added, “She is giving her full support for the official stance of Buenos Aires, despite the fact that Great Britain has made it clear that the sovereignty of the Falklands is non-negotiable.”

Clinton’s comments are not the first “slap in the face from the Obama administration,” as Newsmax reported earlier. When British Prime Minister Gordon Brown became the first head of government to visit the White House last year, Obama let out word that a bust of Winston Churchill that Prime Minister Tony Blair had presented to the U.S. as a gift from the British people had been returned to the British Embassy.

Obama also canceled a joint news conference with Brown and excluded British reporters from covering Obama’s press conference, an act the Daily Telegraph called “rudeness personified towards Britain.”

Walks the Talk	Posted 1:32, 03/08/2010
woahhh! What the hell?! Ya' know, this is embarrassing. I am certain that obamessiah nor hilliary ever had one class in American history. Imbeciles. Geez, so embarrassing. Yeah, and RUDE.

earl	Posted 13:2, 05/28/2010
Where are all the OBAMA SUCKERS? I guess they are singing the old song "Am I FOOL number ONE".

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