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yadperson
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Posted 18:24, 07/10/2008
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Offshore Drilling?
Good/Bad?
Will it really help?
Discuss.
(not a bait, I am just tired of pointless convo. Trying to start up something that could possibly be interesting.)
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fiesta pantalones
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Posted 19:8, 07/10/2008
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The oil companies say they need it. The environmentalists block it. This gives the speculators a reason to run up the futures price. The oil companies increase the price based on the futures market. The speculators and the oil companies both win.
In my opinion let them drill. Decrease the perceived future value. That will drive down the futures market. We should then see the price at the pump go down.
That is my opinion.
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foxnewsfanatic
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Posted 19:55, 07/10/2008
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I think we need to explore all options to get us off of oil. Hybrids,Off Shore drilling, Nuclear, clean burning coal, solar, you name it, we need to do it all.
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Stokes
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Posted 21:18, 07/10/2008
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I am with you Fox.
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fiesta pantalones
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Posted 21:31, 07/10/2008
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Fox - I am with you too. There is no reason not to pursue all options.
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ASAP
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Posted 7:52, 07/11/2008
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I agree with fox as well. Just a little not though. The other options are not much better. the price of grain and corn are now going through the roof. The media will lead you to belive that this is because of oil prices. In reality it is becuae of the research being done for bio-fuels. The demand is so great that they can rais there prices and do not see any near future decrease but more increases. They are now drilling in North Dakota and have found a sea of oil. This is not going to make it to us though. The goverment is still using this oil for stockpiling. I don't know this first hand but I have been told by some professors at Wake Forest University, that we have a stockpile now large enough to furnish oil to the entire country for 10 years. Now why don't we start using some of this to manufacture gas and start hurting the import oil company where it hurts the most, their pocket.
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yadperson
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Posted 13:8, 07/11/2008
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Corn is not a viable fuel option. That is a big hoax. Switchgrass and other plants can be used more efficiently. I think it would be possible way to bring back the smaller farmer or to help those already struggling by offering them a cash crop they can grow.
Fiesta-
I agree with your sentiments, but I think that trying to find more oil isn't really going to decrease our dependence on it, you know? It seems to me it will just solidify the oil companies hold.
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LeRoy B.
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Posted 15:36, 07/11/2008
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Acouple of years ago Liz Dole was against off shore drilling.. NOW that its election year and she's running again, she says she has re-considered it , thanks its a good thing...
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fiesta pantalones
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Posted 18:33, 07/11/2008
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yadperson - No, it will not help break the dependence on oil. It will just lower the price for now and buy some time. Hopefully people will pay attention and do something about it this time. They didn't in the 70's when we got the first warnings.
LeRoy - 7 out of 10 people in NC want it. She is just playing the numbers. I think she will be against it again when re-elected. To give her the benefit of a doubt, these high prices may be enough to make her see the light. I just don't believe it.
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coollittlehot
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Posted 7:6, 07/12/2008
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Brady Wooten is for what the people want as well, right?
Drilling domestically will not take our dependence away from oil, but it may help take our dependence away from FOREIGN oil. That's a good idea.
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yadperson
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Posted 19:35, 07/15/2008
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21 million barrels a year, 60 percent of which is foreign
60 percent of 21 is 12.6 million barrels
10.6 million barrels from foregn countries to me still a dependence on foreign oil
I am not willing to give up our coastline for a temporary gas price drop for a few months.
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gearhead
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Posted 21:25, 07/15/2008
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By your own math you would not take a choice that would solve 84% of the problem? The oil rigs would be so far offshore, you could not see them even with binoculars.
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1st_amendment_rights
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Posted 22:2, 07/15/2008
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Have you stopped to consider it could take up to TEN years to get these offshore platforms up and going?
I sincerely believe this is a last ditch effort by Bush to line his pockets with even more oil money.
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Nature 7
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Posted 2:45, 07/16/2008
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^^Then Clinton should have begun it.
Actually, more oil cannot be the answer. 55 of the top 65 oil-producing countries have declining production rates. Demand will outstrip supply. Alternatives should have been looked at 10 to 15 years ago.
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Nature 7
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Posted 2:51, 07/16/2008
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At 95% probability, ANWR holds 5-7 billion barrels of recoverable oil. At current consumption.that would last about 271 days.
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yadperson
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Posted 14:52, 07/16/2008
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thanks nature, those were the numbers i was looking for.
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trash
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Posted 22:13, 07/16/2008
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peak oil? The russians claim that oil is not a fossil fuel. the current war, and oil rush is based on the peak oil theory. What if the russians are correct and the peak oil theory was incorrect. Regaurdless,we bang our heads looking for alternative sources that extent our comsumptive lives that requires 9 global hectors per one american. It really isnt what we do as much as it why we do.
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greeneyedlady
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Posted 0:5, 08/02/2008
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First of all, we knew the price of gas was going to soar and our reps. in Washington dropped the ball and these are the so called fighters we voted for -that are supposed to be watching out for us- the voters.
Out of 11 members of the OPEC more than half of them are from the Middle East. These people stopped production at their own whim not ours and therefore decreased production yields the rising cost of it. This however is not what we- ‘The People’ hear we hear that the refineries are unable to keep up with demand hence the good ol’ supply vs demand scenario.
Not to mention that we get a higher percentage of oil from Iraq than we did before we invaded on the premise of fighting for the civil rights of its people (yeah right). Can we say Bush is from Texas……..
We do, I have to say receive a large amount of oil from Canada and Mexico so we don’t completely rely on Iraq and we have our own too. We are however still recovering from Hurricane Katrina we receive a large amount of oil from the Gulf. In this case supply and demand was greatly effected and we are still recovering from.
Due to a halt in production the president released oil from the nation’s reserve to make the difference. The reserve is diminishing as a direct result of Katrina and other devastation weather occurrences over the past few of years.
Most of this information is available for those of you whom keep up with this type of stuff at the Federal Trade Commission Web Site as well as Wall Street Today and Stay Connected.com.
I think that we need to take control of the situation and make the US more reliant on self implementing this new found way of energy- “Wind Mill Farms” the most influential men of oil in Texas is breaking out this new technology.
Using what this great land has to offer and stopping those Middle East OPEC members from playing with our most needed commodity.
All avenues should be explored to further enable the US to be more oil Independent.
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gearhead
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Posted 2:31, 08/02/2008
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Let's actually use a few numbers:
We get a whopping 17% of our oil imports from the Persian Gulf, and that includes a big 4% from Iraq. Less that half even comes from OPEC.
Source - June 2008 International Petroleum Monthly
The entire world is beginning to use oil much more, not just for fuel but construction materials, plastics, medicines...
The top 5 importers of oil in order are The European Union, US, Japan, China, & the Netherlands (2006 photius data)
I agree wind energy has its place, especially is some remote places - only it is currently more expensive that oil. I would suggest we add 50 nuclear power plants, 1 per state within 10 years. No significant amount of oil should be used to produce electrical power. We need to work on electric rail, battery development, "in road" electrical power....
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dell
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Posted 9:37, 08/02/2008
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this would be agood way to go
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trash
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Posted 10:12, 08/02/2008
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we had better drill before the russians drill at an angle and zap our resources.
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BAFEM
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Posted 22:52, 08/02/2008
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Trash;
Surely you're not serious.
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DIJAFO
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Posted 16:48, 05/28/2010
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I know this is an old post but after reading the comments here, I wonder what they have to say now......
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marlboroman
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Posted 22:34, 05/28/2010
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I can not believe the society we have become. We actually have people here, as well as in every corner of our great country, believing everything our government and the media are telling us. I've heard for years we need to find new ways and newer ideas to overcome our dependance on oil. We don't need to be dependant of oil. We need to be dependant on foreign oil. I came up in a democrat family when it was "cool" to be a democrat. I haven't been a democrat in years. Don't get too excited because I'm not a republican, either. We have been told time after time during election year that we will "take our country back." Guess what, it hasn't happened yet. People, we need to wake up and get rid of all the beaurocrats in Washington and Raleigh, and yes, even in Yadkin. We live in a society whereby 4 residents of Yadkin County decided to build 2 new schools, when the majority of the county had voted it down twice. We live in a society whereby insurance companies, special interest groups, foreign countries control our economy. Do you really want to be dependant on foreign oil? Then don't buy it. The big three companies that import foreign oil are, Shell Oil Company, Chevron/Texaco, and Exxon/Mobil. We live in a society whereby banks get into trouble, the auto industry gets in trouble, and our government comes in and bails them out with loans. When was the last time the government bailed you out? Those of us who have lost jobs to foreign companies and still have our house payments, car payments, taxes, insurance. Where is our bailout? The only bailout we get is the small tax credit we may get when we file our taxes which does nothing, absolutely nothing to help us with our payments. I could go on and on. I love my country. I would do most anything for it. I appreciate the sacrifices that those who serve and have served in all branches our military. Take a moment this memorial day weekend and thank those veterans and actice service soldiers who are defending our right to post on a forum such as this. Before you go to bed tonight, let's all get on our knees and pray that we, as a nation, haven't yet seen our best days.
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Cletus
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Posted 22:37, 05/28/2010
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Great post Marlboro Man !
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walks the talk
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Posted 1:44, 05/29/2010
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Agree with Cletus..Good post.
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walks the talk
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Posted 1:27, 05/30/2010
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Obama says that he's been in control the whole time (concerning the oil spill).
"The American people
should know that from the moment this disaster began the federal government has been
in charge of the response effort," he said at Thursday's press conference (the first
press conference he has held since last summer). "Make no mistake: BP is operating
at our direction."
Apparently, he truly believes that the market can operate only at his command.
pp
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fiesta pantalones
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Posted 8:16, 05/30/2010
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With the way that this backward ass effort has failed since day one, I have no problem believing that Obama would be the one making calls. He has absolutely no idea what he is doing so why would anyone not believe that he is overseeing one of the worst natural diseasters that this country has ever seen.
Maybe if Obama had the common sense of a piss ant he would look at how the Saudis fixed an oil spill many times larger than this and follow their lead. http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/could-cleanup-fix-for-gulf-oil-spill-lie-in-secret-saudi-disaster/19476863
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Hot Dog
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Posted 8:27, 05/30/2010
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Obama wants us to fail in everyway. If so, then America must depend on the United Nations for guidance, and support, instead of the other way around. One world Government is his goal.
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FED UP
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Posted 9:26, 05/30/2010
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"Obama wants US to fail in every way"???
I thought it was the other way around. Y'all have said you wanted HIM to fail.
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Stokes
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Posted 13:18, 05/30/2010
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Damn, fp, you think you could get that info to BP and Obama??? It seems they are oblivious to this soulution.
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slab
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Posted 22:8, 05/30/2010
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well Fed Up he is failing on this. I am very upset at Obama over his lack of leadership. He said the buck stops with him, so now he has accepted responsibility for stopping this. If we are a month down the road and this thing is still spewing oil, he should step down. We can go to the moon, but can't stop oil from coming up from the ground? I don't care if it is a mile down in the ocean. The moon is many miles away. This is absolutely ridiculous. He better step up to the plate soon and I mean real soon.
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FED UP
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Posted 5:28, 05/31/2010
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slab, my comment was not about what he is or is not failing at.
It was directed at Hot Dog saying Obama want us to fail in every way.
I've never seen any indication of that, unless you believe the maniacal ranting of people like Glenn Beck, who fills his listeners heads with mush. I have, however, heard the leader of the republican party, Rush Limbaugh, say he hoped Obama failed, even though he knows if Obama fails, the country fails.
If Obama really wanted us to fail, he would have intentionaly lost the last election to McCain and Palin. That would have done it.
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slab
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Posted 7:5, 05/31/2010
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well, you should know me by now to realize I don't drink anyone's kool-aid. I know what Rush said. Now, please tell us how you feel about offshore drilling and this latest catostrophic event.
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fiesta pantalones
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Posted 8:2, 05/31/2010
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stokes - Considering the epic proportions of incompetency that this administration has shown, they may know about this solution and Obama is just too heartbroken to react at this moment.
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fiesta pantalones
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Posted 8:13, 05/31/2010
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Turn it around then. Forget about what Obama has done in the last 1.5 years. Let's all look to the future. What do you guys think that the administration should be doing over the next 3 months to help correct this problem? I am really interested in what characteristics of a leader is highlighted in each solution.
My idea would be to hire tankers in to start skimming the oil off of the surface. It has worked before so logic dictates that it should work again. BP isn't going to do on their own because it would cost them more money and they are a business with its main duty being make as much profit as possible for its shareholders. They are focused on trying to stop the leak so I say let them work on that, let the government focus on stopping anymore damage to our shores. It appears that Obama is sitting back and hoping that BP will take care of the cleanup too. That might be true in the long run, but sitting back is only letting the problem escalate and will make the clean up more costly, difficult, and the environmental damage more severe. That is what I think should happen in the next 3 months and why I think it.
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Stokes
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Posted 9:25, 05/31/2010
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but wouldn't you think that BP would already know about a tried and true remedy and would have used that first?
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fiesta pantalones
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Posted 12:49, 05/31/2010
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Stokes - I don't know. If they are using their tankers for clean up, then they aren't making money off them. I bet they weighed out the costs of waiting and letting the US foot some of the bill for clean up after it hits the coast. Plus I would say most of the actual costs aren't really ever going to effect them. Things like fishing industries destroyed, tourism, things like that.
I think Obama should step up to the plate and pay to hire tankers to come in from South America or where ever they are and can get here the quickest. Then send the bill to BP. The longer Obama sits around and does nothing, the harder the fix will be. This is just another sign of his lack of leadership skills when the rubber hits the road.
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LeRoy B...
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Posted 13:47, 05/31/2010
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AH!!! You want to put pressure on Obama!! Now he don't know $##T about Big Machinery. All he ever did was organised an acron meeting. Exxon never paid a dime for clean-up, you think BP will. Those Alaskan fishmen lost a years salary plus the enviroment.
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slab
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Posted 14:25, 05/31/2010
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Yes pressure should be put on Obama. Who gives a rat's arse if he knows about Big Machinery. BP has been given the chance to fix their mistake and now its affecting the country as a whole. The country has to do something to protect ourselves and then figure out the rest. Here is the problem. Obama has gotten us so in debt that he doesn't want to add more onto it by cleaning up the mess hoping BP will do it. But they don't care.
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LeRoy B...
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Posted 21:2, 05/31/2010
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slab: I'm with you,BUT Too many corpations and Big Business expect US tax payers to foot the bill. We have helped BAILOUT Too many already.
If BP were gonna do something they would have already started. One Month is too long. I know all their employees are not working on that one site. Where is all the Enviromentals? Where is the EPA? Why isn't somebody Fussing and Raising Hell?
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slab
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Posted 21:17, 05/31/2010
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ok, so you are suggesting Obama raise hell to BP and force them to do something instead of "bailing" them out? I'm ok with that too. But I don't consider this a bailout. This is a "protect our land". Then we force bp out of the gulf and we take over unless they pay it all back. Maybe we can't if that's international water. I don't know, but Obama has to do something besides talking.
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wizard
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Posted 7:51, 06/01/2010
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If BP would just blow up the well, the problem will be solved. Why hasn't obama demanded that this be done? obama, like all recent presidents, is in the pocket of big oil. If this method had been used within the first week, all this damage would not have happened. obama should have demanded this be done. The well explosion wasn't his fault, but all the damage caused was his fault.
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Wilford
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Posted 9:32, 06/01/2010
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Yall cuss big gov. Now yer cussing big gov. cause they ant doin enuf.
Make up yer mind.
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slab
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Posted 16:1, 06/01/2010
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who is yall? I don't want big govt, but I want a govt that protects our country. The oil disaster is beyond BP now and our country needs protecting. I am sorry that Obama has to take the brunt of his lack of action.
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SadNews
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Posted 12:37, 06/11/2010
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So its always the President who takes the blame. Last time I checked he isnt anything to BP. This is BP's fault and theirs to clean up. If blowing the well was all that had to be done they would have done it by now. It happened on Obama watch but its not his fault. Who is to say this wasnt done to try and hurt his popularity numbers. Well it may do more than that it may curtail some drilling. So BP didnt really want that. Its just an accident by a greedy company that ignored all the signs. Let them go down cleaning it up if that is what it takes. If we had done that with some of these folks who we bailed out then people wouldnt be so prone to making mistakes. They would be careful next time.
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SBD
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Posted 15:44, 06/11/2010
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If he is going to sit up there on his black ass and just watch just like "W" did in new orleans we don't need him as the leader of the country either.
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slab
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Posted 22:10, 06/11/2010
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EXACTLY SBD. If he's going to sit on his ass just like Georgie Porgie, then we don't need him.
Sad, BP is ruining our economy, the Gulf coast lifestyle, our land, etc. It is their fault completely, but we are 2 months into oil gushing out into the Gulf. There has to be a point in time when the country protects itself. That time is now. What do we do? I don't know, but the dang oil was under ground at one time, so there has to be a way to get it back that way. I guess I feel like this. I cannot believe how advanced our country is in most everything, but we sit here 2 months into this and we sit looking like idiots and our president really isn't doing squat about it either. Other than claiming he's going to whoop somebody's ass.
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walks the talk
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Posted 2:18, 06/12/2010
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Obama also continues talking tough to at least look like he's "doing something":
"I
was down there a month ago," he bragged, "before most of these talking heads were
even paying attention to the Gulf. A month ago I was meeting with fishermen down
there, standing in the rain, talking about what a potential crisis this could be."
So he was "standing in the rain and talking." What leadership!
The erstwhile community organizer didn't stop there. "I don't sit around just
talking to experts because this is a college seminar," he said. "We talk to these
folks because they potentially have the best answers so I know whose ass to kick."
What dignity!
I despise obamessiah.
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SadNews
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Posted 13:55, 06/12/2010
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Youre exactly right no one knows better than you so you guys go plug the thing since you know so much. Dont you think it would be plugged right now if people much smarter than you or me could do it? What the president supposed to do? The leak is 1 mile underwater. I dont care who it is there just isnt much you can do with that. We better buy some BP gas is what we better do if they go belly up then its going to be our mess to clean up.
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SBD
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Posted 17:7, 06/12/2010
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I believe that if all of the assets of BP were frozen, especially the execs there would be plenty of funds to pay for the clean up and also be a warning to the next company to have a plan for any disaster. I also believe the management should be held criminally liable for the death of any worker who has been or will be killed trying to fix the problem-- just like a drunk driver who wrecks and kills someone. Unlike what the government has done with the banks-- bail them out and give them more money when they piss that away.
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liberalbender
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Posted 22:28, 06/12/2010
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For all who think off shore drilling is a good thing-I suggest you move to the Gulf and enjoy. None of the oil companies had a plan to stop a spill like this-cause they thought it would never happen. For years(way before President Obama)our gov't believed there was a plan-but recent events have shown that the plan was the cut-off valve-that failed. And with alot of oil floating below the surface at different depths...who knows when and where it will land.
Money won't bring back the marshes, the shrimp, crabs,etc. Money won't stop the birds, fish and mammals from dying. Money won't get that smell out of the air.
And once they get the flow stopped-they will then be saying "Now we know how to stop a deep water spill-so we can put up rigs all over!" And enough people will believe them. And it will happen again.
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weezie
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Posted 19:22, 06/13/2010
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If our president fixes the oil leak in the gulf, would it be considered ni&&er riggin?
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slab
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Posted 19:47, 06/13/2010
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That's an odd question coming from you weezie. Aren't you bi-racial?
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white american
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Posted 21:35, 06/13/2010
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weezie, I think it would be called Afro engineering.
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weezie
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Posted 22:56, 06/13/2010
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Slab-ya s German and Cherokee!
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weezie
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Posted 22:58, 06/13/2010
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I heard tonight on the tele, they put a ring on it and it hasn't put out since. Damned if we do, damned if we don't.
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walks the talk
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Posted 1:38, 06/17/2010
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The Oval Office Address (Short Version):
"I've returned ... I assembled a team ...
I'd like to lay out ... I've authorized ... I urge the governors ... I saw and heard
... I've talked ... I've seen ... I've talked ... I refuse ... I will meet ... I
make ... I asked ... I approved ... I want to know ... I met with ... I've
established ... I've issued ... I know ... I urge ... I expect ... I was a candidate
... I laid out ... I say ... I am happy ... I will not accept ... I will not
settle..." --Barack Obama
pp
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slab
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Posted 6:59, 06/17/2010
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Well now oprah says obama is doing a great job so i guess he must be.
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Newday
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Posted 8:50, 06/17/2010
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From what I understand most of the oil companies knew this would eventually happen because of the simple fact that they were being asked to drill far off the shores in deep water. So why would they skip steps and forgo cautions when they knew this? Greed Obama hasnt a thing to do with that. No one does. It the fault of oil company because they knew full well what they were dealing with and we will be extremely lucky if ever get it to stop pouring out oil. If we break BP we are going to break Englands retirement system. They are deeply invested in BP stock so you can imagine what all is at stake here. There is just no one else to blame except policies and decisions at BP, when we let people drill--deep water---we have to accept the responsibility for the accidents as well. The truth is there is little we can do now but someone better punch a hole and drain that thing from another end thats the only way I think weve got a chance of slowing it down.
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slab
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Posted 11:18, 06/17/2010
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Newday, whose blaming Obama for this spill? I'm not. The cause of this spill has nothing to do with Obama. I am upset at Obama's RESPONSE to this. 2 months into this and the thing is still gushing. We put a man on the moon, and choose to sit by sipping tea while our country is being attacked by oil. That's my problem. We should be doing something way more than sipping tea and waiting. Bill BP for all the cost I don't care, but don't just sit back. And before you say what can we do to stop it, forget that. We probably don't have more expertise than BP, but we could send the navy and all other resources to collect as much oil as possible before it reaches our coast. Show some action. I am tired of words.
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slab
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Posted 11:20, 06/17/2010
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what you posted is like me saying Bush didn't cause Katrina. Of course he didn't. It was his lack of RESPONSE that caused the criticism. Sorry, but Obama is no better now.
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Newday
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Posted 11:51, 06/17/2010
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Slab,
Youre letting your dislike of a person get in the way of whats feasible. What are you supposed to do with a leak a mile underwater? If BP with all the resources in the billions that they have cant do it. What do you think we can do?
Do you want us to pay for it too? Would that satisfy you?
No you just want to hate on someone because you can. Thats all youre doing.
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slab
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Posted 13:30, 06/17/2010
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yea newday you are right....NOT. I just told you, WE CAN'T STOP IT, but WE CAN HELP CLEAN IT. Apparently you read none of my post because you knew it was going to say something about our precious president. By the way, did you go posting online when Bush failed miserably with Katrina? Oh let me guess, that was different. Not according to Obama.
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Newday
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Posted 13:53, 06/17/2010
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Slab,
No I didnt slam Bush not once and why? Because when the election was over it was over for me. I got behind my President and I stayed behind him even though I dont always agree with him I recognize that we havent had that kind of thing to deal with before and we might not know what we needed to do.
People spend too much time hating on one another instead of helping one another.
Now I dont agree with the Bushs stand on the New World Order but now that they are out of office Im standing on that.
But
If the Republicans would spend a little time on some loyalty to their country and try to look at the bright side of what is being done for the country and stop acting like crybabies who lost the election then we might get more done that they prefer.
I did it when my side lost. Why cant other people.
But for the record Im a Ronald Reagan voting Unaffiliated voter and Im proud of that.
But I would give you 10cent for either of the Bush's but I got behind them and I didnt cry about it. I think if people stopped acting like babies and starting acting like Americans then maybe more would get done for the positive.
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slab
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Posted 15:27, 06/17/2010
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well I'm a registered Democrat who would've voted for Hillary Clinton, did not vote for Obama, and did not vote for Bush the 2nd time, but did the first. So let's see, the first 4 years of Bush he did great until he started with the lie about WMD, so he didn't deserve to be re-elected. I was right. I didn't vote for Obama, and so far, I was right. I also didn't vote for Bev Perdue, and if you stand behind her, then there is no use even continuing the conversation.
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Posted 18:2, 06/17/2010
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What do yall think of our esteemed Rep congressman Barton ? "I apologize," Barton said to BP CEO Tony Hayward, who was sitting at a witness table for another of Congress' ritual floggings of wayward corporate heads.
"I do not want to live in a country where any time a citizen or a corporation does something that is legitimately wrong is subject to some sort of political pressure that is -- again, in my words, amounts to a shakedown," Barton said. "So I apologize."
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Country Bumpkin
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Posted 19:36, 06/17/2010
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Joe sounded just like obama Didn't he?
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ouch
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Posted 20:28, 06/17/2010
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He sounded like he was trying to earn all that money the oil companies gave him.
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Newday
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Posted 8:34, 06/18/2010
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Well slab there is no point discussing or fretting about who you or I vote for and why becuase those reasons are based on what information either of us may or may not have. I dont like what Bev Perdue has done with her time but I do acknowledge she has had a royal mess to deal with in the way of extreme shortfalls. Even though it seems she has been a little hard on people who arent equipped to do the job they are asked to a lot of the time. I certainly wont vote for her again and I know not a soul who did who will except maybe for one. You may chose not to speak to me if you like but I am what I am and dont hide it. At least it seems as if the both of us are searching for something better for the country, the county and at least we havent let party influence and game playing cloud our judgement. However I find it interesting that you would vote for Hillary and not for Obama. I would have voted for McCain but his age and the naughty school librarian as his back up I just couldt do.
I do think Obama has spent too much money on a chance of return or on speculation and thats pretty damn risky. The reason stuff like this happens is the overiding greed that was present at the end of bushs term. People get tired of paying out and then we only have one choice in a two party system and they decide ok we are at least done with one side.
Thats how this mess has happened.
We can only hope that the Republicans will see that unfettered greed is the base cause and we all suffer for it.
Just as the Democrats finally realized Gun Control was something the South just wasnt willing to hear and it disappeared from the mainstream Presidential campaign.
The other choice isnt always the right choice but it is often the only choice.
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slab
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Posted 14:5, 06/18/2010
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Well I couldn't vote for Obama because of his lack of experience. The 4am call, which even though we haven't been attacked physically, we have been attacked by oil, and he is acting just like I expected. If it was 30 days ago, I would be starting to get upset, but at 60 days in, well, I can't help how I feel. My vote for McCain was a vote against Obama. Quite frankly, we really didn't have a decent choice. I initially liked Palin, but that quickly waned.
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Newday
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Posted 14:42, 06/18/2010
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I understand what youre saying by lack of experience but who has experience running the greatest country on earth probably none of us qualify honestly. I really dont know who else it could have been. I liked Hillary as well. No matter what people say about Bill Clinton it takes someone with some grit to live through all of that so I think she had it and I would have voted for her. What troubles me the most in politics is the New World Order thing. Do yourself a favor and check this mess out, Read the wikipedia explanation of it. See some of the You tubes on the subject. It necessary but depressing news and unfortunate for us is something coming to fruition unless we think of it at the polls. It not a dem/rep issue they are holding hands on this one and frankly it makes me sick.
If you think about the time when we were sure we were Superior to other countries that is when we were the strongest, our econonmy the strongest and our policies the most sound. Whats going on now? I have no idea. I think Ill be lucky to make to old age and leave it behind but I sure hate it for my children.
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walks the talk
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Posted 1:25, 06/19/2010
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Comedian Jay Leno may have summed it up best when he quipped, "President Obama
announced [Tuesday] that he wants to use the oil spill to move America toward green
energy. I have a crazy idea. Maybe he should use the oil spill crisis to fix the oil
spill."
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pitbull
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Posted 9:8, 06/19/2010
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In truth no one knows what to do about the oil spill we are breaking new ground on this one and sure isnt pretty.
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