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Our president is a mongrel.
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Yoda_Joe_Blie
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Posted 13:39, 07/29/2010
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Vindication!
Our president borack husain obamer called himself a mongrel. Well himself and other mix breads. Finally a leader of the socialist left tells the truth.
Hell has officially frozen over. Truth from the presidents lips.
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Oogie
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Posted 17:19, 07/29/2010
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Obama has already played golf more times during his presidency than George Bush did in 8 years. Obama is really on the job.
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Heathenism
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Posted 18:5, 07/29/2010
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Patriot Act
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walks the talk
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Posted 4:14, 07/30/2010
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Can't stand that long-legged lying thug mac-daddy. He's not qualified enough to fold napkins, least of all to be prez.
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Newday
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Posted 7:15, 07/30/2010
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I hope you guys remember a fellow named Clinton. You said all kinds of nasty things about him but you cant deny that during his time we were a prosperous nation with jobs, cheaper fuel and no financial crises and he also submitted a balanced budget. Well thats not good enough for you it only counts if your guy delivers it. You said the same things about him youre saying about Obama. Does all that blathering make you feel better?
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Oogie
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Posted 8:19, 07/30/2010
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Obama did not choose his parents.
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slab
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Posted 9:56, 07/30/2010
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I loved the Clinton years. Obama so far is not doing a good job. C- for me. I dont want him to fail though, but call it like it is. The Bush years were really bad too. He gets a D- from me.
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Yoda_Joe_Blie
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Posted 10:6, 07/30/2010
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Clinton was forced kicking and screaming implement conservative ideas by congress. Clinton inherited Ragenomics. Bush inherited the downturn from the tail end of Clinton. Remember there where reports a few years ago that showed that cooked the books to help gore in the run. Bush is no saint. His deffasit is less than 1/3rd after 8 years than obamas is after 2.
Get ready for a really bad time. obama is intencchanaly destroying the nation. That's what they people do.
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Newday
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Posted 12:18, 07/30/2010
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Well give credit where its due Yoda, The stimulus was born under Bush. Obama came along after it although it was implemented after he took office. It was Bushs idea and it was decided on during his administration. I was clearly against it.
Reagan was a great man and Im proud to say I voted for him. As of a downturn after Clinton I dont know about that one, I think Bush did a fine job of screwing things up all by himself. The market fell solidly in 2007 and how many years had he been President then, I believe 7yrs so If that be the case he had one full term and most of another. Then when we try to reign in the thieves from Wall St. we hear the same hollering. So I agree with you partially just dont be so partial to your guy that it turns into denial. None of them are Saints but in my opinion the poles have switched and Republicans seem to be spending more of our money than the Democrats but Republicans dont give you anything back.
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Yoda_Joe_blie
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Posted 14:26, 07/30/2010
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Remeber Jimmy Carter? Now that was a president.
Anyways. The dems are spending our money now. The dems have bin for a while. The bailout was a mistake during the bush years and the 2 more tacked on to that in this administration was allso wrong.
The housing market fell do to peaple getting loans thay could not pay. Forced by the goverment to make thows loans.
The car companys fell do to unions being promised the world. The goverment bailed out thows unions by buying the companys in sted of letting them go in to bankruptsy. If they did go in to bankruptsy the union contracts would have to be redun. The goverment steped in. Closed a bunch of dealerships witch where owend by privet non union peaple. They lost there jobs so the unions could keep what they had.
Unemployment benifits are out of control. More unpaid free money.
Healthcare reform is going take a crap on everyone. Contrys in europe who have sociolised medisin are backing away from it becouse its not sustainable. Exactly what we are doing in reverse.
Amnisty is right around the corner. Bush wanted it and was yelled down. Obama is going get it.
Cap & Tax is going to hurt the everyday man thrue utility prices.
I dont consider myself a republican. More of a conservative.
The tax system we have punishes succsess. The more you make relates to the harder you work. At least to get to that pay scale. More education and longer hrs trying to get ahead. The only road blocks come from the goverment.
Bush was not that great imo. He made mistakes. Education reform was one and so was the original banking bailout. Directly coused by the goverment forceing loans. We are not at the Carter level yet. The dubble dip recession is just arouind the corner
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Yoda_Joe_blie
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Posted 14:29, 07/30/2010
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dident have time to spell check
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Oogie
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Posted 14:40, 07/30/2010
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"The market fell solidly in 2007" Congress was in the hands of the Democrats after the November 2006 elections and has been ever since!
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Newday
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Posted 0:2, 07/31/2010
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Yoda,
I definitely agree we need an complete change of the tax system and make everyone pay the same percentage no discounts you pay and thats it. I think that is the only thing that will work.
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Oogie
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Posted 11:27, 07/31/2010
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From the Winston-Salem Journal today:
"The fallacy of Barack Obama is Bush's omnipotence. If Bush had the power to make things so bad, then doesn't Obama have the same power to fix it all? He enjoys the support of a Democratically-controlled Congress. If Obama's policies are so brilliant, where is the milk and honey?"
HARRY R. COOKE
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Newday
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Posted 12:57, 07/31/2010
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I just love the Republican blather. They always spout something that seems to make sense but doesnt work that way at all and then ask why not? Omnipotence isnt a word I would use concerning GWjr. Impotence is a little closer, biased towards the oil companies and in support of a market controlling bunch of Rich Thugs that only have their best interest in mind.
It our fault we caught them with their hands in the cookie jar, Im sure that the ones with their hands in the jar didnt do anything at all.
When the people spoke it wouldnt have mattered what the new guys name was. This time it was Barack Obama. Yeah a guy named Barack Obama got elected and who was the real culprit. Those same guys caught with their hands in the cookie jar. So when you slam the new guy dont forget just how he got there and how the Democratic Congress got there. They got there with votes from the people. All you have to offer is youre supplications saying you are right, you are conservative, that you support the moral majority and then you have that hand all down the mouth of the cookie jar. Now how is that?
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Yoda_Joe_Blie
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Posted 13:16, 07/31/2010
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sorry to say that democrats are in a bunch of scandle hot water atm. Not a single Republican in hot water atm. Last one was that one who sent textes to the pages. No contact just textes.
Please dont ask me to list them. here are 2 lesser known ones
Williom Jefforson
Maxien Waters
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Newday
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Posted 17:14, 07/31/2010
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Someone is always in hot water. Perpetual state of politics.
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FED UP
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Posted 18:16, 07/31/2010
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Yoda..........ah, never mind, it wouldn't be fair.
Carry on, Yoda.
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hmm..
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Posted 18:44, 07/31/2010
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Newday and FEDUP, I always hear those same platitudes about Bush (and Burr and Republicans in general) about big oil, big business, caught with their hands in the cookie jar, etc. Please tell me specifically what Bush did that makes you and others say these things....
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FED UP
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Posted 19:38, 07/31/2010
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hmm...the fact that you would even ask that question is, of itself, proof that no answer would satisfy you.
I could, and have, many times, answered that question, and always get the same response from conservatives. A blank stare.
Anyone who doesn't know the republican party is joined at the hip with big oil and big business in general, and against the common good of the people is in denial.
If it isn't so, give me a list of just a few, A FEW, mind you of the the things republicans have EVER done for the poor, the working and middle class in this country.
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hmm..
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Posted 19:58, 07/31/2010
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How is that proof? I asked a fair and open-minded question and you responded with nothing. The way you want to fit every Republican into one mold only tells me that you feel that Liberals also all fit into one (your) mold.
I do feel that you are given to a fallacy that compassion and capitalism are mutually exclusive.
Expand yo mind, Craig....
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walks the talk
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Posted 1:5, 08/01/2010
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"We [African-Americans] are sort of a mongrel people. I mean we're all kinds of
mixed up." --Barack Obama on "The View"
So we guess it's somewhat of a mischaracterization to refer to him as the first
black president.
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In other news, you can add your name to the president's birthday card
(http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/barackbirthday ) before Aug. 4. Once you sign it, you'll be redirected to a page asking for
donations to the Democrat National Committee.
First Lady Michelle Obama is behind the effort, perhaps to make up for the fact that
she and daughter Sasha, along with their entourage, will be occupying some 30 ROOMS
at a five-star HOTEL in Spain on Barack's b-day.
Jim Lindgren, a professor at
Northwestern Law School, got it right when he observed, "[A]sking millions of
Americans to sign a birthday card for the President suggests a tone-deafness about
the cult of personality. If we lived in a dictatorship, getting millions of subjects
to celebrate the Dear Leader's birthday would be routine, but in a free republic
this appeal to get millions of citizens to celebrate a current president's birthday
strikes a discordant note to my ear."
pp
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Newday
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Posted 8:8, 08/01/2010
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Its just an invitation to celebrate a birthday. Of someone who managed to do something for the middle class no one else was able to do. Can you imagine the economic impact on this county when we dont have health care costs? Well if it wasnt for the Republicans we would have it. People would spend money on the so called Free Markets and this country would once again boom. Yeah I think I will sign the birthday card and I may give some money. He actually managed to give the middle class something back for all the taxes we pay unlike the Republicans who all----All---stood against it----They just wanted the insurance companies to continue their rape and pillage of the middle class. If not which one was for it.------None------. Who is on your side?
Not the Republicans thats for sure.
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hmm..
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Posted 8:38, 08/01/2010
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How will we NOT have health care costs? Please explain.
BTW, it is not the insurance companies that 'rape and pillage'. That would be the trial lawyers, a group firmly in the Democratic camp. The insurance companies merely pass along the cost of huge judgements....
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Newday
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Posted 9:11, 08/01/2010
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If the Republicans hadnt caused such a fuss then we would "all" have a basic individual coverage provided for a base price. Now you will only get access to that at a certain level but the effect will be nearly the same. If you work and make enough money to buy your own well little will change. The uncovered will actually have health care now. That will free up some money for the economy.
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hmm..
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Posted 9:27, 08/01/2010
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It will take money from the economy from those who will pay for it. I would argue that it will take more than it will put back due to the fact that government, with all of its inefficiency, has inserted itself as a middle man....
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MEDIC
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Posted 15:47, 08/01/2010
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bump
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Yoda_Joe_Blie
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Posted 11:24, 08/02/2010
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Once again. What did obama do for the middle class?
Seems like the tax CUTs Bush implemented for ALL tax brackets will be going away in obamas term.
Once again what did obama do for the tax paying middle class? Not the 51% who don't pay taxes. Anything you do for a non-tax paying citizen is welfair. Remember the middle class pays taxes. Anything you do FOR the middle class would consist of cutting taxes.
Now are we talking welfare? Take from one who is middle class and give to another. Or actual middle class help aka tax cuts?
What do you considers middle class? The defined as poor in the US (below poverty levle) are equil to europes middle class.
It's all relative to who is looking at it.
Once again.
What did this president do for the middle tax paying class?
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Newday
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Posted 12:13, 08/02/2010
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He is bringing your sons and daughters home from a foreign land where you Republican Idols sent them to in the interest of oil!! Any objections?
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Yoda_Joe_Blie
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Posted 14:49, 08/02/2010
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After a victory in iraq he voted agents funding. He is withdrawing most but not all. During his campaign he promised January 2008.
Now he is escalating the afgan war. So whoever is leaving Iraq is probably going afganistan.
Ok so the middle class again? What is he doing?
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Newday
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Posted 14:55, 08/02/2010
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Lets try healthcare for everyone and once again The Republicans dont want us to have it!!
You guys are so predictable. We dont want you to have anything we dont control!!! Nothing is a good idea unless it comes from us. Pleasssse!
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Heathenism
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Posted 15:36, 08/02/2010
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I'll second that. The Republocrats had plenty of time to improve our health care costs. They failed.
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Newday
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Posted 18:43, 08/02/2010
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Yes Heathen,
youre exactly right after all that work and disagreeing then they say ok now we will work with you--and they are just stalling---too late. Now that we shoved it down your throats you actually think that youre going to take a House and Congress majority and not fund the bill. I think if you do you will find yourself lacking in another November.Someone is looking forward to Health Care Reform. From a person who has voted Republican I think you all should be ashamed of the people who represent you. They only want your votes and they want nothing for your own good. They want tax cuts for the Rich they have been very clear on that. Sure Bush might have given you some tax cuts but who else did he give them too!!!and did Bush balance a budget!No!! Yeah thats right. Lets make sure we take it from the middle class and give it to the top 1% of the country. Thats just where I want my money going. The truth is if you take away all the pork there is plenty of money to pay for the health plan. So now these Congressmen and Senators actually have to do something to earn their constituents trust. Pork makes politicians happy. Take it away and actually accomplish something good with it and they call out the troops---the great unwashed--to do their bidding, sending them out blathering their idiocy like Obama sucks, Obama is Muslim, Obama hates white people. Well Obama is the President and he is doing what he promised the country he would do and thats what got him elected. At least he is keeping his word!! If you guys hate Democrats so much well then how about not taking your Social Security!! Democrats gave you that one too. How many of your mothers and fathers are collecting it now along with a pension from another source!! Oh Democrats havent given you anything! Your politicians have stolen from you and everyone else and if you spent as much time looking after your own side and their own lies maybe we would get something fixed in this country but no it just has to all be the fault of the Democrats because our drum beaters say its so. Thats all you guys know. Blame, blame, blame, youre not even happy we are getting out of Iraq. What a bunch of sour grapes you are.
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Grams
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Posted 23:43, 08/02/2010
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news flash, nobody gave me any damn social security. That is my money that they forced me to give them from the money that I earned from the sweat of my brow. Did they invest it and make it earn more money? Hell no, they pissed it away on whatever they wanted to spend it on and put an IOU in what they stupidly call a social security lock box. As for medicare, had that money been invested and earning money all the years they have taken it from my pay, medicare wouldn't be broke and with all I have paid in plus what it would have earned, I wouldn't have to be concerned that now when I may need health ins, the damn government are going to tell me what procedures I will be "allowed" to have at "my age". In addition to paying all these things for my retirement, I have never been without health insurance a day in my life and I am certainly not one of your rich folks. I have done without things to be able to afford good health insurance however I have never had a surgery and only a couple of days in the hospital twice in my life and now when I might need some medical care the government has forced me to have medicare - no choice - if I don't have medicare then I cannot get back MY SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY that I have paid in - Obamacare may or may not allow me to have it. If this damn healthcare is so great, then please tell me why it is not good enough for those damn congressmen and that idiotic president????????
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walks the talk
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Posted 1:19, 08/03/2010
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^^^Amen^^^^
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Newday
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Posted 6:22, 08/03/2010
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Well one thing is for sure the democrats didnt do this alone to Social Security and in a way I will be glad when its gone.
It allows people to think they can rely on the Goverment when all of them are crooks.
I agree with your post to some extent Grams but Obama didnt mess up Soc Security and to answer why the goverment officials arent on the health care?
Its because someone opposed the individual option. The Republicans. The existence of the health care does not mean you cant buy your own or have your own. What it does mean is that you have options and we would have had much more options if the individual option were included in the bill and that would have brought costs down to a lower level.
No one can get anything done right because of all the bickering and all the bickering is because someone wants control of your money.
Let me ask you this.
What is wrong with working for Cash, paying with cash, saving your cash and living until you die?
Nothing. Only we arent brave enough to do it.
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Yoda_Joe_Blie
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Posted 11:27, 08/03/2010
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The tax cuts where across the bord. Not just for the ritch. Every bracket was cut. Wait till you get your first pay check in January. Then you will see what that tax cut for the rich did for you.
Tell me again why we should punish hard work? Why should some one who didn't have a kid at 15. Went to school studied worked hard went to colladge when his friends where out partying. Got a job worked his way up the ladder. Finally after years of hard work and late nights pays more and for his buddy who had a kid and is now liveing off the government dole his friend pays for. Ever hear of the Grasshopper and The Ant? It didn't seem fair in the story eather.
Healthcare? Are you kidding me people want it. Do you remember the Massachusetts senator election? "The Ted Kennedy seat"? It's on the way to get repealed. Remember that congrassman who wanted to bring some CEOs up before congress to testify about some charges they took about the bill? O probably not. He backed off when he found out it was the law forcing them to take them charges.
Why should a company or government provide health coverage or Inshurance? Where in the constitution is it written we are supposed to be covered or someone has to provide it?
Budgets? It seems that the deficit that bush created in 2 wars and 8 years is 1/3 of what obama made with a democrat congress in 2 years. Who is running up the deficit again?
Oil buddies? I don't think bush bowed to king abdula of soudi Arabia. Btw every president has palled around with the king. Oil makes the world go around.
Let's say tommarrow we swap to 100% renewable energy. The US uses zero focil fuel. Tommarow we would be using the most expensive energy to manufacture and live. The world would be using the cheapest form of enegy. That oil we don't use anymore would be even cheaper do to extra supply. What would that do to our economy. That's exactly what a self imposed switch would do to the US. Cap&trade.
Social security? Are you F-ing kidding me? Give me my 15% and I'll put it under a rock. It will give me more that SS will ever do. No need to reform it. Give me my money!
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FED UP
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Posted 11:42, 08/03/2010
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Yoda...listening to right wingers has turned your brain into swiss cheese.
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farmer
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Posted 13:54, 08/03/2010
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FedUp....I've seen this clip before, and I wish it weren't true, and it makes me laugh and cry. Right brainers, unite!
R.I.P. George.
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Yoda_Joe_Blie
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Posted 16:22, 08/03/2010
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Btw. It's nice how I put out some information.
How I put out intelegent questions and state actual facts. What I get in retern is name calling and leftist dribble.
That is how a leftist works. Call me names or change the subject every time your cornered with the truth.
George Carlin was a comedian. A good one at that. If you get you points of view from a comedian. You are beyond the scope of reality I live in. I live in the real not twisted world of a comedians brain.
Bush deficit 456 billion in 8 years.
obama 1.5 trillion after 2 years.
obama has stuck America in the back in his foreign speeches. Apologiesed and degraded America as an evil in the world.
O remember now NASA has to "out reach" to muslims? Isn't that special. Kinda like the mosk in NY city. O shoor the president don't want to get involved in local affairs. When it comes to the Arizona law. Now that's a different story. How about when he wants to impose everyone buy Inshurance.
Patriot Act. Was and allways will be a bad law. Passed with out a cool head. Passed by every legislator strictly on feelings. 1 lost freedom is 1 too many.
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Newday
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Posted 21:2, 08/03/2010
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Those figures are only if you count the stimulus which George Bush passed onto Obama.
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Grams
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Posted 21:21, 08/03/2010
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newday, please repost where I said it was the democrats!! I SAID the damn government. I don't know where you get this crap about buying your own but those of us over 65 HAVE NO CHOICE. We MUST have medicare and IF WE REFUSE then we don't get back our social that the GOVERNMENT took from us. I wish they would give young people the option of paying into or not however since so many liberals can't save a dime and have debt up to the yeng yang the government would just be supporting them when they got to be seniors so better to get something from them along the way. But they cannot keep all the money that they have taken from my earnings all these years and if they tried to do that to everyone, there would surely be a civil uprising in this country. That money does not belong to the government. It belongs to the ones it was taken from.
The individual option has nothing to do with why congress and Obama and his family aren't on the same thing that all other citizens are. It has to do with they want and they will get something better than they are giving the citizens. Give me a friggin' break. Everyone in congress plus this idiot in the white house think they DESERVE better than the populus that put them there and NOWHERE HAVE I SAID DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN. Your democrats are just as rotten, maybe more so as the republicans so stop defending them.
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Heathenism
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Posted 21:34, 08/03/2010
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Yoda
I'd say he did. Patriot Act. Enuf Said. Though I will go on to say that he did campaign on a non-interventionist foreign policy his first go around.
Hell, what do you know about the Constitution anyway?
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Stokes
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Posted 0:7, 08/04/2010
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Yeah Grams!!!!! You are dead on.
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Yoda_Joe_blie
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Posted 0:25, 08/04/2010
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Heathenism<-- It was Divinely inspired just like the Bible was. Do you believe in the constitution? I do in both.
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walks the talk
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Posted 2:46, 08/04/2010
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Our Social Security
Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:
1.) That participation in the Program would be
Completely voluntary.
No longer Voluntary
2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
Incomes into the Program,
Now 7.65%
on the first $90,000.
3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from
their income for tax purposes each year,
No longer tax deductible.
4.) That the money the participants put into the
independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the
general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security
Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and,
Under Johnson the money was moved to
The General Fund and Spent.
5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as
income.
Under Clinton & Gore,
Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed.
Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month --
and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put away' -- you may be interested in the following:
------------ --------- --------- ---------
Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the
general fund so that Congress could spend it?
A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
controlled House and Senate.
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Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?
A: The Democratic Party.
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Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
Security annuities?
A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the
'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the US
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Q: Which Political Party decided to start
giving annuity payments to immigrants?
AND MY FAVORITE:
A: That's right!
Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
even though they never paid a dime into it!
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THEN, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take
your Social Security away!
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Heathenism
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Posted 8:59, 08/04/2010
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Yoda
Divinely inspired though no mention of a god? How so? Are you a Mormon?
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Yoda_Joe_Blie
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Posted 10:36, 08/04/2010
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Heathen<--- Wow you are a name caller aren't you. Did the big kids pick on you in school? Now all you do is call people names behind a screen name?
Just be because there is no mention of God. This translates to non-devinly inspired? You saying everything that is devinly inspired has to include God in it's text?
When some one is inspired by God to create something. A work of art of any kind. Is Gods name on it always?
Why don't you get a clue what Devinely inspired is defined as. I always thott it was inspired by God. God placed the power and will in a person or people to do great thing or things. I guess my definition and yours are diferant.
Why don't you tell me what your definition of "Devinly Inspierd" is. Then we can explore deeper in your moron alugation.
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Yoda_Joe_Blie
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Posted 10:41, 08/04/2010
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One more thing. Before you post a link as farfetched as the one you posted. Try factchecking it first. Makes you look more credible. Atleast people my take what you say as actual truth and not fictitious.
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Yoda_Joe_Blie
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Posted 10:48, 08/04/2010
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Woops thot you said moron not mormn. No Christion Identaty.
I am sorry I read that last word wrong. I truly apologies.
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Heathenism
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Posted 11:50, 08/04/2010
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To help perpetuate the claims of the now hijacked by evangelicals "Republican" party, a mention of god or two would certainly not hurt. But you justify this with some silly notion probably the same way that you justify the reason Jesus did not write.
Divinity hasn't revealed itself. Let me repeat. DIVINITY HASN'T REVEALED ITSELF.
Free will with a hell is not free will. Maybe it would help if you could think of a nice analogy to go along with FREE WILL WITH A HELL IS NOT FREE WILL.
Religion cannot equal freedom. Jefferson called it a wall of separation. Madison called it a line of separation. We're secular. That's the only way it will work.
I need to look more credible? What about spell check? Yeah but everyone knows you do that on purpose by now.
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Yoda_Joe_Blie
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Posted 14:18, 08/04/2010
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"FREE WILL WITH A HELL IS NOT FREE WILL"
Gosh I didn't know you where an Anarchist as well. Do you think we have free will? Is there a puppet master pulling your strings? So your saying free will initials killing, robbing, and adultery with no consequences. Got it. So your a Atheist-Anarchist? Do anything and everything at a sper of a moment or planed and have nothing detrimental happen. But why would you care? There is no hell. We evolved from rocks and when we die we die.
Since religion can't equil freedom. Well then laws don't equil freedom either. Isn't that special. Let's all go out and kill and rape everyone in sight with out consequences. WOOO HOOO
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Heathenism
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Posted 18:26, 08/04/2010
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I see I blew your mind. You haven't been paying attention.
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