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Uniforms for K-12
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goldendesk
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Posted 7:26, 07/11/2010
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I dont have any kids the ages of K-12, but would be willing to pay more taxes to put these kids into uniforms. Your thoughts?
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Newday
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Posted 10:32, 07/11/2010
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Well goldendesk its a great idea an eliminates a lot of problems I have to admit. At the current education takes most of the states budget which is why we are seeing cuts in education. The only problem with that is that all of the silly bs paperwork isnt being eliminated that cost us money. Everything that we could do to save money has to be approved by the legislature through some new law. That is what clogs the system and prevents change. I think we need uniforms and year round schools for elementary and high schools. When education becomes a way of life then education will be more important and become a means used to make for a better life. Not something to look forward to getting a break from when it needs to be something you look forward to.
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Betsy
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Posted 13:56, 07/11/2010
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Uniforms are a double edged sword. It equalizes the dress code however it also takes away the individualality of the kids.
Now this going to school year round is a bad, bad idea. It is hard enough to keep a kid's attention the amount of time they go now. Year round school gives them nothing to look forward to. I was an A student in 1-12 grades but I hated school. I hated to study, I hated tests, but I loved the social part of school and I knew I had to have good grades to get into college and I also knew I needed a college education to make a decent living. Speaking as a retired teacher, I would never ever support year round schools. Kids just like adults need stress free time in their lives and time off from school must be a part of that. Most adults take one or more vacations during the year and the kids are entitled to that as well not to mention that parents want their kids with them when they are on vacation.
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that girl
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Posted 14:9, 07/11/2010
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hmmm...speaking of an a student and a retired teacher you spelled individualality wrong (individuality). don't brag about something if you are just gonna make a mistake imo.
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little voices in my head
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Posted 14:22, 07/11/2010
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i would not want to raise our taxes for school uniforms. they are raised enough as it is. however, if the schools would like to have donations set up for anyone who would like to donate money for a cause like this i think would make for a better way. then possibly the donations would go toward the individuals who qualify who's family could not afford to buy them theirselves. and also maybe your donations could be tax deductible. there are ways around doing things that we don't have to raise our taxes everytime someone has a good idea.
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SBD
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Posted 16:53, 07/11/2010
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I do not think you could donate any money to the school system and have it used for a purpose that makes any sense. They would piss it away on other useless projects that the PTB feel more important such as someone's pet project. I do feel that uniforms would surely keep down some of the distractions but why not just set a dress code that does the same thing and for a change enforce it. Instead of no shirts with offensive depections on them cover up the females and pull the pants up on the thugs, across the board rules which if enforced properly will be fair to everyone.
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toot
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Posted 18:44, 07/11/2010
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hey guys&gals of this fine county,if you are willing to spend the money on uniforms think about this, you need at least 3-5 sets and your child will suffer consequences for not having on the appropiate attire.sure this will eliminate the baggy pants,graffitti shirts and the (oh i shop only at certain stores that make me better than you ,but there is a down side just wanted you to be aware.
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Betsy
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Posted 19:46, 07/11/2010
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that girl, what exactly was I bragging about? Yes, I did spell a word wrong, so what. I was stating my opinion based on my own experience. Why do you have a problem with that??
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that girl
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Posted 19:58, 07/11/2010
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since you were an a student and a retired teacher why don't you figure it out if you are so smart.
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michelekibbler
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Posted 21:22, 07/11/2010
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I don't agree with year round schools, or uniforms. There are some advantages to school uniforms, but I don't think schools should go to that. The EOGs need to go, and give the creativity and room to teach for our educators.
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Betsy
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Posted 22:54, 07/11/2010
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Sorry but mindreading was not the subjects that I taught.
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walks the talk
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Posted 2:38, 07/12/2010
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that girl: You are an absolute little brat. I do not know what is eating at you, but I bet it is very hard to pronounce. I am a retired psychologist, and that is my assessment of you.
Now, run along, and try to fit into society.
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goldendesk
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Posted 23:19, 07/15/2010
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You guys answered my question. We in Yadkin have always been afraid too lead and have seldom followed. Thanks for the input, but reminds me of the old saying lead, follow, are get out of the way. I know how kids are dressing, and set their groups of better than others, and think it would put everyone on the same playing field. Continue to spoil your kids, giving them everything they dreamed of, and watch your end product. Good Luck!
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that girl
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Posted 0:19, 07/16/2010
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walks the talk: i was not talkin' to you so what the f is eatin' at yew? obviously nothin' that's why yew so ill. lmfao! yew may be a retarded psychologist but don't send me a bill because i didn't ask fo no assessment from yew. and fo yo infomation i am not a little brat i am a b***h and don't yew foget it!
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walks the talk
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Posted 0:40, 07/16/2010
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^^^that girl, You forgot to get your prescription refilled .. again. And it appears that you have missed several spelling classes. Sad, sad, little girl.
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Tinsel Town
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Posted 9:56, 07/16/2010
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I am all for uniforms on many levels, there will definately never be an argument at home about you are NOT wearing THAT to school. It would have all the students on equal levels. No designer this or that, show that stuff off afterschool or on the weekends. I know the drawback it cost for some, and I guess that is where the problem would be. As far as year round schools, I am all for that, they have a pretty good schedule, I think it is something like 9 weeks on 3 weeks off, 9 weeks on 2 weeks off, and so on....this would give parents opportunities to travel at different times of the year rather than only in the summer. I don't know about the costs to run them though, but it sure would be better than what they are doing in Wilkes with that extended school day !
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Tinsel Town
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Posted 10:2, 07/16/2010
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One other observation...nothing personal but I am curious Betsy if you hated school so much why would you become a teacher? I hope you didn't inflict your distaste for school and learning on your students.
That girl, this is not a spelling forum, sometimes we make spelling errors as typographical errors not because we can't spell. We are talking about uniforms and year round schools...what did you think of that topic?
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goldendesk
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Posted 15:17, 07/16/2010
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Boy poor old Betsy really dosent get it does she. Indivduality she says.....that is part of our kids problems, is they cant mentally be an indivdual, because their status is based on, clothes, cars, etc. There is one negative with uniforms....the kids would have a damn hard time figuring out who their friends should be.
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that girl
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Posted 17:53, 07/16/2010
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i am not the grammar police. i am not perfect either and i make mistakes too. but i wasn't the one bragging that i was an "a" student and was a teacher. of all people she should be the one to spell better than anyone with all that education. so therefore the point i was making was don't brag about something if you just gonna make a mistake. there was no mind reading about what i was trying to say betsy, it was just plain and simple common sense.
the op's opening comment was about uniforms not year round schools. someone else mentioned the year round schools. but if you want my opinion on the uniforms i do not want our taxes raised for this. it's not my responsibility to clothe everyone's child. maybe if the school could get a grant to purchase a least one for each student and then the parents responsibility to get however many more they want for their child. however, i do believe it would be easier if the kids did have uniforms for everyone. i think uniforms would cut down on the baggy pants, short skirts, offensive t-shirts, tight clothing that looks painted on. kids would be more equal and not looked down on because some kid could not afford the abercrombie and fitch, hollister, etc. clothes. kids at least in high school need to start preparing for a job when they graduate some may be required to wear a uniform. i wouldn't mind donating money to the schools for uniforms like someone else posted.
now if you want my opinion on the year round schools i have never had to deal with one so i don't know much about them. if a school was to go year round the school hours should be shorter and concentrate on one or two subjects a day for a month or two. then the next couple months go on to other subjects. not having 5-7 or however many subjects they have nowadays and only spending less than an hour in each class. if you have about two subjects a day and concentrate on those two for a couple months i believe a student could learn more about that subject. how much can a child learn in less than an hour for each subject all day and a 1/4 of that hour is spent on roll call. what a waste of time. just about the time the teacher starts getting into the day's lesson the bell is ringing for the next class. but a year round school would still have to have time off for vacations periodically. but if a year round school never made it here i still think learning one or two subjects at a time would be better. plus the kiddos wouldn't have to lug around a bunch of books all the time.
as for you walks the talk: you need to go to liars anonymous. you were never a psychologist. you seem to be keeping up with when my prescription needs refilling for some reason. sorry but you can't have any of mine so quit bugging me to get mine refilled. go get your own! and i made it all the way through school (in the front door and out the back).
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ramedifidoramedifidon't
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Posted 18:21, 07/16/2010
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The school system would not be buying the uniforms, the parents would! Got to buy school clothes anyway and it would probably be cheaper.
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Betsy
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Posted 23:51, 07/16/2010
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I became a teacher hoping that I could help some kids not feel about school as I did and I did that for quite a few students.
I spoke about grades to draw a parallel. Perception is often different from the real meaning. My opinions about uniforms and year round school is just that - my opinion so if it makes you feel better to attack me because of my opinions, then just have at it.
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walks the talk
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Posted 1:50, 07/17/2010
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that girl= blah,blah,blah,blah,.
Can't take a joke, huh?
It is so easy to rattle you all up.
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walks the talk
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Posted 1:51, 07/17/2010
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YES to uniforms.
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Tinsel Town
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Posted 7:9, 07/17/2010
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Betsy...no one is attacking you ! I asked a question based on your attitude toward school and certainly you are entitled to your opinion.
I do not see your parallel between being an A student and hating school.
Why is it when you question someone or you don't have the same opinion as they do people take it as a personal attack?? I have seen that on more than one post....it isn't personal....we are sharing our opinions and sometimes we have to agree to disagree
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walks the talk
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Posted 2:10, 07/18/2010
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Tinsel Town, There are a lot of people that, as kids, hated to go to school. I sure hated it AS A KID, but finished. It does not mean I would hate being a teacher.
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goldendesk
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Posted 19:55, 07/19/2010
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ok, lets do a vote now and see the percentages. Do not add any comments just yes or no.
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goldendesk
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Posted 19:56, 07/19/2010
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Yes
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goober
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Posted 20:41, 07/19/2010
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yes
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goldendesk
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Posted 7:28, 08/21/2010
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Betsy, your right. When the students move on to get a job, just tell them you cant work summers....(to stressful). Also tell them you cant wear their uniforms because it takes away from your individualality. Plus if i see how my fellow employee dresses i can figure out who i need to be friends with without speaking to them, and learning who they really are. Strong points Betsy.
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