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opionated*n*intelligent
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Posted 14:2, 09/10/2008
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Are there gangs in yadkin county?
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eastbender
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Posted 14:6, 09/10/2008
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I have been hearing of some Mexican gang activity recently. Not sure how much truth there is to that though.
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opionated*n*intelligent
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Posted 14:12, 09/10/2008
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Do you know if there is a specific part of the county that is worse?
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ncDeMoN
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Posted 14:48, 09/10/2008
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Yadkinville on the street that goes down beside of Pinebrook Residnets Home. And I had a State Trooper stop by my house and said there are mexican gangs that will purposely ride around with their brights on and when someone flashes their lights at them, you know to let them know they have their brights on, they run them off the road.
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opionated*n*intelligent
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Posted 15:43, 09/10/2008
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I have heard that there are some in the West Yadkin Elementary School area. My kids go there. How true is this?
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housewife
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Posted 4:45, 10/18/2008
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mexican gangs have been around the hamptonville area for years
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ithappensalot
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Posted 19:2, 10/24/2008
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I do hope they attempt to run me off the road!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OU812
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Posted 12:54, 10/26/2008
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Do these gangs have names?
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YadkinGal
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Posted 22:29, 11/13/2008
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They are also running a gambling pool and betting using the BP station at 21 and 421. They are dirty people.
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ncDeMoN
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Posted 10:16, 11/14/2008
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M13
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DELL
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Posted 11:39, 11/14/2008
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YadkinGal Posted 22:29, 11/13/2008
How are they useing and running a gambling pool and betting using the BP station at 21 and 421.
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TheMadCatter
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Posted 12:4, 11/14/2008
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Opinionated*n*Intelligent is so 'intelligent' that he/she spelled their own screen name wrong.
So much for credibility, huh?
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Eagle Eye
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Posted 12:11, 11/14/2008
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The majority of Hispanic gangs, not only locally but nation wide are:
1) MS-13
2) SUR-13
Sometimes you can see the number 13 on a football jersey, or see blue bandanas, or blue t-shirts. Sometimes if you are observent, you will see other indicators of gangs with different colors.
Some things like "gang signs" are made with different hand signals, and they tell all. Other things like body language, such as standing a certain way, with arms in a certain position.
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Betsy
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Posted 13:27, 11/14/2008
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Eagle Eye, since you are in law enforcement, would you give us your opinion of how serious this is in Yadkin county especially how it plays out in each school. Also can you tell us what kind of signs to look for and more about the colors. Thanks.
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Eagle Eye
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Posted 17:2, 11/14/2008
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Betsy, A few indicators that you can see now, is with the Graffiti that you see around town. Look on the on signs, and bulidings, its not hard to find.
All graffiti is not gang related, but the vast majority of it is. Alot of times if you look closley you can see SUR 13 (Surenos) or MS 13 logos. It is sometimes distorted in appearance, and you must look close.
The graffiti normally marks certain gang terrority. The graffiti will not always indicate "MS-13" or "SUR-13." Other hispanic gangs are "18th Street", and "TRG" ( Tiny Rascal Gangsters) The "Norento's," The"Kings" which are Charlotte NC Based, and "Vatos-Locos" as well as the "Orphans 13."
You could see any, and or all of these gangs in our area. Although, I would bet on "MS-13" and "SUR-13."
Sometimes other symbols or drawings mean something to gang members, where as you and I would have no knowledge of. Gang signs and symbols have meanings and are a completely different street language.
Find out more at ( www.ncgangcops.org) and ask questions at ( infor@ncgangcops.org)
I hope this helps, and the citizens need to be aware that they are here. They completely control the drug trade, and are sometimes very violent. Not only the gang members, but their prospects. The prospects hope to earn the respect from the gang members by committing crimes directed by the gang members, and /or carrying out other orders from the gang members themselves.
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libertarian
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Posted 17:38, 11/14/2008
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if drugs were legalized, gangs wouldn't have any control.....
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BAFEM
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Posted 19:15, 11/14/2008
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Betsy,
Since you taught school in Forsyth, I would've thought you already knew this--started there first. Oh, I forgot-- you were too busy doing lesson plans/going to rest room to notice what was going on in the student's world!!
Libertarian,
You're ABSOLUTELY correct.
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2cents
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Posted 8:35, 11/15/2008
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Let me see now, are they as worst as th KKK in the same areas. Believe you me I know everyone who is a klan member in Yadkin. This was told to me by an ex-klan member that saw the light and got out of the klan. Please don't make me start name calling, because a few of you just would not believe who some of them are!!!
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slab
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Posted 10:0, 11/15/2008
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tell me tell me, I wanna know!
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hambone
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Posted 0:19, 11/16/2008
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Let me see now, are they as worst as th KKK in the same areas. Believe you me I know everyone who is a klan member in Yadkin. This was told to me by an ex-klan member that saw the light and got out of the klan. Please don't make me start name calling, because a few of you just would not believe who some of them are!!!
You go ahead and name names. While you are naming names, go ahead and name those three wars you said you fought in. Do you actually think anyone on here takes you serious? Why must you tell such lies?
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Walks the Talk
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Posted 2:15, 11/16/2008
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^^^2cent said he had been in 3 wars and lived in many countries. He says he was wounded in Nam,and cannot walk. Therefore, the OTHER 2 wars had to be before Nam. And we STILL do not know what the 2 wars were..or the countries where 2 cent lived. Just thought it would be interesting to hear about the countries...
Ok, off subject. Sorry. Gangs scare me due to some incidents out west. BTW, the KKK was/is very prevelent in CA. It is not just the south..it is all over.
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LeRoy B.
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Posted 9:29, 11/16/2008
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The KKK did good deeds as well. Back in the 60's in Washington,NC,When a black family's home burn down ,they helped them find a place to live ,gave them food and clothing. So, we are not all bad as ssome say..
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Gamisou
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Posted 9:33, 11/16/2008
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A friend of mine's son goes to Forbush. He says the mexican gang there is pretty intense. He won't even try to talk to a mexican for fear of bringing trouble. My humble opinion, anyone in the public school system that is found to be in a gang should be expelled.
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nasty
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Posted 12:12, 11/16/2008
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i wonder what the bleeding heart liberals (that don't believe gun ownership) are going to do when these gangs start threatning them? they are going to try and find a real American with firearms to protect them. they may try to offer the gangs what conservatives own. that is the liberal way.
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YadkinGal
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Posted 17:22, 11/17/2008
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Dell....they use the phone booth. I know a guy who was betting with them and then they started harrassing the guy for nothing. The guy should have known better to deal with the scum. You leave your bet in the phone booth at a certain time and day, then after the games you betted on they go back or you go back and pay up on a certain day and time.
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Athena
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Posted 0:24, 01/31/2009
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Gamisou... 11/16/08 "My humble opinion, anyone in the public school system that is found to be in a gang should be expelled."
Wouldn't that give more time for commit illegal activities? How about funding a program for the public school system to help those 'at risk' kids to make better choices...
YadkinGal... how are you so in the know?
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Walks the Talk
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Posted 5:27, 01/31/2009
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I don't mind funding EDUCATION. (Well, I don't have a choice). But I am tired of funding all the other crap under the heading/ pretense of 'education'. Send the little gang bangers to to fight in the wars since they are so tough. Again, where is mom and dad?
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weezie
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Posted 9:23, 01/31/2009
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Walks the Talk===YOU ARE RIGHT ON TARGET!!!! It all begins at home.
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Athena
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Posted 15:15, 01/31/2009
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"Send the little gang bangers to fight in the wars since they are so tough."
That is a very interesting point. Forgive me if I am wrong but didn't Union soldiers force some of the Confederate soldiers they captured to join their ranks during the Civil War?
"Again, where is mom and dad?"
I also agree... but it is fairly apparent that not all parents take parenting seriously. It is not fair for the rest of society to clean up their mess... but that is how it is if we want to keep OUR community within our control. Gangs start on a small scale... it takes time for them to grow, but they will. We will never be like Los Angeles or New York but they do still have the potential to create many serious problems.
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weezie
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Posted 15:57, 01/31/2009
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Athena, why don't you think we will not end up like L.A. or New York? I was in L.A. when they started small and over a few short years they grew into the sh?t they are now. It's just a matter of time.
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Athena
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Posted 16:5, 01/31/2009
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I'm not saying that it wont be bad... but compare little ol yadkin county to L.A. or N.Y. We are too small to support huge organizations like what have been established in the largely populated areas... sure, without a doubt this area could have a few satellite gangs from Charlotte and other larger areas that could do their fair damage... I was refering to large scale operations
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Athena
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Posted 16:5, 01/31/2009
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oops... silly me, please throw the word share in between fair and damage
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Eagle Eye
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Posted 9:50, 02/01/2009
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Athena, I will have to disagree with your opinon that Yadkin County is not large enough to support large gang organizations. Yadkin County has long been know to be a "drug hub." This is known by local, state, and federal agencies. Some of the reasons for Yadkin County being a "drug hub" are listed below:
1) Rural County
2) Large Hispanic community
3) Little opposition from law enforcement
4) Centrally located
These are some of the factors that have made Yadkin County a "drug hub" for years. To better explain my answers, first, a rural area has room to have multiple drug, or better known as "Stash houses." These are areas that can be used without drawing alot of attention. Second, Yadkin County has alot of Hispanic populaiton that gangs would blend in here easier than areas with low Hispanic population. Third, theres little opposition from law enforcement becasue Yadkin County is understaffed, and undertrained to combat large scale drug operations, drug related or not.
The only department with an experined drug detective is Yadkinville Police. So, thats one experienced detective for the whole county. He only has jurisdiction in the city limits unless he works under his cross designation as a ICE Task force Officer. Theres no way an inexperienced detective can combat large scale drug operations. It takes alot of knowledge, teamwork and money. Without adequate manpower, experience, training, and funding, large scale drug operations go largely untouched.
Yadkin county is centrally located between New York, and Atlanta and easily accessible off I-77. Not only is it centrally located between those citys, its a reasonable drive from Charlotte, Winston-Salem and Greensboro. These citys have an active gang population and is easily expanded to "seize" other turf where they feel less challenged, and areas where the illegal drug, and theft operations "feel" safer.
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hambone
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Posted 17:19, 02/01/2009
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I feel sure if these gangs ventured out of town and into the county, they would not feel that safe. It would tickle me to death to have gangs come to my home.
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justlikeu
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Posted 10:15, 02/05/2009
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Just reading through the comments, my take is we wouldn't have these Mexican gangs if we would have deported the illegal Mexicans in the first place.
80% of them are leeches on county and state and then want to get bad-a** in our schools and harass our kids.
Just makes me sick. This county and State give them almost everything and they keep breeding and sucking up more of our resources and those who need it can't get it. They use it up and leave trash in their wake. When in the world is the government going to say enough is enough?
ok whew.. thanks for the vent. Just makes me mad that they cant do this in their own country, they got to come here and screw ours up.
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Athena
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Posted 13:49, 02/05/2009
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Justlikeu... "we wouldn't have these Mexican gangs if we would have deported the illegal Mexicans in the first place"
sounds like an easy fix but there are many problems with that... the most predominant being that while the parents might be illegal, any child born in this country is a citizen... INS has no idea how to tackle that one
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catamount
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Posted 14:44, 02/05/2009
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Eagle Eye,
Very good, factual information you have provided.
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justlikeu
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Posted 15:35, 02/05/2009
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Yes not an easy task, we (as a country/state/etc) have let it get so exteme, we should have done it before these "gang-bangers" were even born. I bet if we knew what we know now, we could have nipped it in the bud.
But your right, INS has not a clue. Send the parents back and we are stuck paying for a child with our tax dollars...but think of it this way... 80% of our tax dollars are probably paying for it regardless.
I don't have any clue either only that I am just sick of them overrunning our communities.
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justlikeu
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Posted 15:38, 02/05/2009
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oops I mean to say 80% of them are getting our tax dollars and we are probably paying for it regardless... ooopssie
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BAFEM
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Posted 19:32, 02/05/2009
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QUESTION:
How many of you have seen "Mexican Gangs" in action, in Yadkin, and to what degree?
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Eagle Eye
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Posted 21:38, 02/05/2009
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BAFEM,
Look for Hispanics in a group that are all wearing similar colors, it could be something as simple as a Carolina Tarhell jersey. If you see this it will not mean that they are Tarhell fans. Look for blue football jerseys with the number 13. Blue is the color for alot of Hispanic gangs, the two most well known gags are MS-13, and Sur-13. They normally choose lighter shades of blue. You could also see any color of bandanas, shoes, jackets and other things that are similar between members of a group. Its no one thing, it can be a multitude of indicators. It could be something as simple as a particular color undershirt that is particially exposed. They also have their own alphabet, that is somewhat similar to ours, but with a distinct twist.
I have seen this at some elementary and high school ball games, as well as just around town. The next time you are around a group of young Hispancis watch closely, you might even see them throw a gang sign, meaning, make gestures with their hands. Those gestures have a meaning all of their own.
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Eagle Eye
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Posted 21:39, 02/05/2009
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By the way, I am not a Tarheel fan, and thats why I refer to them as Tarhell's..lol.
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walks the talk
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Posted 4:43, 02/06/2009
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justlikeu: In 2006..the cost of providing social, medical, law enforcement, and educational services to illegals is estimated at $53 Billion. Then consider the national security issue..
ILLEGALs are ILLEGAL.
Yep, you are right. It is sickening.
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Eagle Eye
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Posted 11:8, 02/06/2009
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The State of California is forty-five billion
( 45,000,000,000.00 )dollars in debt, and is near bankruptcy. It has been admitted that the State of California's estimated thirty-one million ( 31,000,000 ) illegal aliens have drained the states resources.
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justlikeu
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Posted 12:21, 02/06/2009
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and saddening is that is CA alone, imagine the all the states put together...... we wouldn't need a stimulus package.
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Eagle Eye
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Posted 15:35, 02/06/2009
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Actually the 31,000,000 was an estimate from 2002. The new estimate place illegal aliens at about 38,000,000 and that is nationwide. California accounts for atleast 10% of the entire US illegal alien population, which would be about 3,800,000 illegals there. North Carolina only has about 9,000,000 million known legal residents, therefore the illegals in California alone equates to about 40% of the entire legal population of North Carolina.
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TenRing
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Posted 21:4, 02/11/2009
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Gangs and Drug Gangs are in every part of Good ol Yadkin County. Have been for years, Eagle Eye you are right. There is NO way one detective can do much of anything for a big problem and folks there is a BIG problem in Good ol Yadkin County. Small population counties are perfect for gangs and Drugs.
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fiesta pantalones
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Posted 22:12, 02/11/2009
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Ok, I am in my mid 30's, so maybe I just don't get it. I have to ask though. What is the mentality that makes a person join a gang. When I was growing up, we got into fights with our fists and were friends the next day. If you were a man, it was one on one, if not then you tried to bring in friends. When did this change? Or is that just a Wilkes county thing? A gang member would be considered a wussy with a capital "P".
By the way, don't try to blame drugs. That is a lame comp out. I put almost everything possible in my body in those days. Grew a good bit and sold as much as a few pounds at a time. That doesn't bring a person into a "gang" lifestyle.
So what is the deal really?
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weezie
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Posted 13:40, 02/12/2009
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In the larger cities it's a matter of survival. Gang members are targets of other gang members, non-members are a bigger target, anyone else is just collateral goods.
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Smilingeyes
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Posted 14:46, 02/12/2009
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Eagle Eye;
You seem to have a lot of knowledge regarding the gangs in YC and drugs. Can I ask how you are aware of all the activity in YC?
Don't take my asking the wrong way, it's not that I doubt you at all, I am just curious.
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TenRing
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Posted 16:22, 02/12/2009
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Why a Gang,Social accectance and your Place in the world. Group(family)accectance,Gangs are more like family than there blood kin. The Gang is there family (like minded people stick together). Most Gangs do lean toward some sort of illegal activity,Drugs,Guns,Larceny to support the group.You don't have to have murder in the streets to have gangs in your area. Fiesta, your right about drugs,it's not all drugs and a lot of Gang members don't use drugs. We don't need to stereo type, gangs can be the three or four white males that break into homes that call themselves a (Gang), or the local group of drug dealers or the national well known Gangs. There can be a lot of differant meanings to that word (Gang). My personal thoughts an what I have seen on the street it's all about being Accecpted.
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fiesta pantalones
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Posted 16:38, 02/12/2009
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TenRing - That makes sense I guess. I had friends that went with me on large sells. We all had the same thought process and were engaged in similar activity. Of course we just took our money to buy higher quality drugs instead of guns and things like that. We weren't a gang. We were just friends who liked smoking Red Hair and needed to raise cash to buy it.
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Eagle Eye
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Posted 17:44, 02/12/2009
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Smilingeyes,
I am a law enforcement officer approaching 15 years of service. I once worked for Yadkin County, although I now work for another agency. Eventhough its been several years since I worked in the county, I still have many family members, and friends that live, and work in Yadkin County. I still have many friends who work for the Sheriffs Office, and Yadkinville P.D., and the Highway Patrol. For these reasons, I still try to keep up with Yadkin County, its citizens, and the problems within the county even today. I still jump at any chance to work, or investigate any case that effects Yadkin County, or involves any of the residents of the county. Yadkin County is, and always will be home to me.
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SmilingEyes
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Posted 9:31, 02/13/2009
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Eagle Eye;
Thanks, I was certain that you had a law enforcement backgroud. It's nice to hear information from someone who actually knows what is going on. Thank you for all your service.
Again, I wanted to make sure you understood why I was asking, I know on here sometimes asking a questions comes wrong.
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Mr.GoToGuy
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Posted 22:32, 02/19/2009
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gang activity in yadkin county? haha that makes me laugh. these people cant hardly be called gangs. a lot of them are just a bunch of young Hispanics trying to act tough. hardly worth worrying about.
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Walks the Talk
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Posted 3:26, 02/20/2009
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^^^^^ Mr.Guy, did you read any of the posts above? You laugh, .. but there ARE gangs in this county. I had rather be aware than in denial.
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Eagle Eye
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Posted 6:19, 02/20/2009
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I was just speaking to a female officer from a local department ( not Yadkin ) this past Monday, February 16 while in Grand Jury. This female officer was telling me about an incident that she was involved in with more than a dozen Hispanics, which were later determined to be Mexican, self proclaimed gang members, and proud of it. During a call to communications about loud music, and underage drinking, she was dispatched and responded alone. She encountered a large group of Mexican teens. The ages were from 17-19. During her investigation, she singled out a female Mexican teenager with alcohol in her hand. During this conversation, the teen abruptly stopped her, and directed her attention behind her as she witnessed the young male Mexican teens make a hand signal of " fist hitting hand, " to the other teens. This means to beat the officer up. This officer immediately pulled her weapon, called for back up, and stepped away from the crowd, and pointed it at the group of Mexican male teens that had been closing in, planning an attack on the officer while she was interviewing another teen.
Once back up arrived, and there were three more officers one the scene, the investigation continued, and charges were made for underage drinking, it was also determined from identification of several individuals there, that most of them were from Yadkinville.
Yes, gangs, and 'wanna-be" gang members are in Yadkin County and given the right situation, are very dangerous. "Wanna-be's" are sometimes more dangerous becasue they want to impress the real gang, and the only way to do that is through crime, drug sales, and violence.
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Eagle7
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Posted 9:50, 02/20/2009
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The most destructive gang in yadkin county is our former commissioners, headed by Kim Phillips with underboss Joel " the snake " Corneilus.
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Mr.GoToGuy
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Posted 17:47, 02/20/2009
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im just saying i "know" a bunch of these wannabees, and theyre pathetic. our law enforcement, if worked properly, could un root the majority of the activity within a few years. i just dont think a few drunken hispanics are much of a threat. they want to be all tough but if you dont back down on them then its an easy win. they want to fight all day so just pay attention and you can find your young ones. no lie.
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Mr.GoToGuy
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Posted 17:59, 02/20/2009
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but that's my personal experiences. the story about the cop above does point out that a) prob shouldn't respond to drunken house parties alone and b) should prob start now or end up looking like a small east L.A.
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OOgie
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Posted 19:21, 02/20/2009
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While we fervently wish to see these young people grow into responsible, successful adults, some will not if they continue gang activities. In the meanwhile, other citizens must insure the safety of their own persons and property. So we get as tough as necessary on the gangs.
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Mr.GoToGuy
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Posted 21:22, 02/20/2009
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amen
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jebby
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Posted 11:7, 07/01/2010
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i personally wish the above mentioned officer would have thinned the herd at that party.but as we all know a law officers hands are tied,they cant even use their weapons to defend themselves without re-percussions.thats one reason i wouldnt want to be in law enforcement.as a responsible gun owner i would suggest a concealed carry weapon permit to potect ourselves.
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