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SirThomasCrapper
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Posted 18:10, 05/15/2010
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things arent as bad as they seem at starmount. Its all talk. what you really need to be worrying about is how the classrooms are going to have 40 kids in them after the county lays off teacehers again. i heard this from someone who knows
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Country Bumpkin
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Posted 22:6, 05/16/2010
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A Teacher used to have that many years ago. NO BIG DEAL..
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scuttlebutt
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Posted 22:43, 05/16/2010
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It's all about the money!!!!! Teachers and the school system want it, period. I never saw an assistant teacher in all my school years and I have done ok in life and graduated from college with a 3.47 GPA.
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buttercup
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Posted 23:22, 06/04/2010
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scuttlebutt you are an idiot!
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dj63
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Posted 7:6, 06/05/2010
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What should tax payers be paying for when it comes to schools? How many office personnel to run a central office? How many people to operate a school office? Who pay's for the full cost of field trips? Why do we pay for School Resorce Officers through the school budgets? Isn't that covered through the sheriff's department budget? Just a few questions.
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InTheMiddle
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Posted 8:34, 06/05/2010
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Im glad scuttlebutt used all of that -3.47 GPA to figure out its a money thing. I guess we should teach our kids to settle for "OK" in life. Lots of Yadkin County residents have done "OK" in life but that doesnt mean our kids have to settle for an "OK" education. Our kids deserve better!!
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Yoda_joe_blie
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Posted 11:59, 06/05/2010
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A child who will excel will do that no matter what the conditions. A child who will not, won't in any condition.
Every child is not the same. Not everyone is born with ability. Some are and some are not. Not everyone can be a doctor or a lawyer. We need ditch diggers as well.
If you spend more time on a dull student. You punish the bright one.
Same as the tax system. You punish the achievers and reward the....
Anyway back to school. Big deal. So what. Home school if you don't like it. If you can't home school. Get some parents together and do it together. Can't do that then live with what you got. Re-read the first sentence.
You have the ability to sacrifice for your child. You ether do or ya don't.
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goober
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Posted 22:24, 06/05/2010
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Middle, you have to be a school teacher. OK......
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walks the talk
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Posted 0:44, 06/06/2010
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scuttlebutt, You are absolutely right! (5/16/10).
For FAIRNESS, every person who is at least 18 and finished with all schooling should be paying a 'school tax' if not paying property taxes.
Get the damn illegals out of this county..out of the state..out of the country.
And to those of you who rely on that same old phrase, 'But the kids are the future'!,..
How about teaching the kids that this country is $14 million in debt? THAT is the friggin future.
But most in Education have such an immense entitlement mentality that they seem totally oblivious to ANY other needs.
Yes, education has ALWAYS been important..much too important to be left solely to the educators.
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dj63
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Posted 9:18, 06/06/2010
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Maybe we need to import are teachers from China, they build everything we use today anyway. We could save billions by doing this, no benifit packages. From what we are told, are education system is broken, and students from Asia are doing better than our kids.
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Hot Dog
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Posted 9:36, 06/06/2010
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From what I hear, they are importing a Principal from New York. I'm not sure how that will work, culture clash?
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SadNews
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Posted 10:55, 06/06/2010
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Thats no news. They brought Benfield in and he cant seem to get how things work. Now we bring in a Principle from somewhere that probably has money to work with and when he sees what we are dealing with he wont be able to make things work either.
The answer isnt money or imports.
Its good common sense and our BOE doesnt have it if that isnt obvious now I just dont know what is.
Now that we have a mess to deal with just remember they are the ones who made it happen. Board Meeting Monday night if Im right.
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Hot Dog
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Posted 11:1, 06/06/2010
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I know there are some good teachers right here that know the community, and the people in it. Those same good teachers are also qualified for Principal positions. Why are people from own community not being considered for these promotions? Why must we recruit someone 800 miles away?
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intrigued_one
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Posted 17:44, 06/06/2010
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To help everyone out on this thread, I also have family that is in education. It is my understanding that no teachers are losing any jobs. The funding is being cut from other places to compensate for that happening and being put back from places where it was pulled last year to pay those teachers that did lose positions before. From what I understand there are some positions being cut from the county office as well as other non essential positions through out the county. When all is said and done it equates out to about 15 positions which is what the paper said. Now as far as the Principal position goes, I heard that New York fellow is a no go, and they are continuing to search for a new person to fill the position. It is true that there may be some qualified people in the community but the question remains, do they want it? Some may rather not be in an administrative position or may not choose to move to a different role than they currently hold. Others may want a chance at it but you do have to have an administrative degree to be considered for a principal position. I also have heard that it takes time to see results so people need to realize that is no easy fix to all of the problems we see in our education system. It bothers me that some of you are so quick to discredit the good teachers that we do have and want to trade them in for Chinese teachers. It also bothers me that some people are quick to blame the immigrants for the problem. There are a lot of them, but you can't blame the children for the parents being here. They kids are innocent pawns in the game the parents are playing. Some of them could grow up to be fine doctors or lawyers. You never know. As far as the numbers in the classrooms go, they are not much different now than they were when I went to school. Perhaps in certain situations, but mostly the same. If the teaching positions are being adjusted to fit the budge so that positions aren't being compromised next year, I'm not sure that classroom size will be an issue either. To the one who said they never saw a Teacher Assistant, glad they turned out great. They may not see the inside of today's classroom's either. My aunt tells me all kinds of stories and is very thankful for her assistant. North Carolina and Yadkin county is one of the few states left with them, so let's not be so quick to dismiss them. I'm sorry but I had to say something about the posts that I have read on here. I do hope this clears up some of the things on here.
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professional?
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Posted 19:2, 06/06/2010
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SirThomas... you obviously don't work at Starmount to start this thread out by saying that things aren't as bad at Starmount as they seem. I am used to having over 30 children in my class and have had this number for several years. As far as illegal immigrants in our schools go, we can't fault them, however, many have learned bad habits from their parents. In the past, I could count on my Hispanic students to be hard working, respectful, and ever-willing to learn students. Recently, my Hispanic students have become too "Americanized" or are working the system like their parents. They are lazy, insolent, and use the "language-barrier" as a way to not work in class. The sad thing is, we are in the new generation of Hispanic children where the majority should not have a "language-barrier" problem, since they have lived here the majority, if not all, of their lives. It is amazing that they communicate well outside of the classroom, but when it comes to working in the classroom, they suddenly can't speak and read. I know this is not true for ALL hispanic students, but it is the majority in the classes I have taught in the last couple of years. I am not just picking on the Hispanic students. I made the statement earlier about Hispanics becoming "Americanized" for a reason. Over the years that I have taught, the children of our county are progressively becoming more and more lazy, direspectful, and have the belief that they are "entitled." Children today have filthy mouths that would make a sailor blush-boys AND girls. The cell phones that parents and the students believe they are entitled to have pictures that look like they are trying out to be a junior porn star on them and messages that are disgusting! Parents, why do you insist on texting your children in the middle of class, when you know the students will get into trouble for having them out at school? I love teaching and I want our children in Yadkin County to succeed, but I can't understand how the majority of parents will set a bad example and then blame their child's misbehavior on the school. You as parents are enabling your child when you allow them to have a cell phone at 10 years old and proceed to text them during class. You are enabling your child when you set them out alone at the skating rink or movies for 3-4 hours at around 12 years old and wonder why at 15 and 16 they are getting into trouble. You as parents are teaching your children by example. You can't blame every bad thing your child does on the school system. If you allow your child to be lazy, allow them to be disrespectful-yes even to you, and teach them they can whine and they will be "given" what they want, and proceed to give them the mindset that they are above the rules, what do you expect? I am going to step on toes with this post, but sadly I deal with this type of student in great numbers.
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teachtoo
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Posted 20:29, 06/06/2010
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Thank you "professional?" for telling it like it is! Glad someone has the guts to tell the truth. I also experience all you mentioned in my classroom every day. And the reason SOME teachers at SHS are unhappy with the new administration is because they are being held accountable to do their job after many years of doing next to nothing and being allowed to do make selfish decisions that benefit only their agenda (with former administrator approval). Ms. Parker has the students' and teachers' best interest at heart. As she has been a leader instead of a "pal", students have accused her of being arrogant. Teachers have said she hides in her office because she is not talking to three people at once, making promises that will never come true, while talking out of both sides of her mouth. I have seen her in classrooms more this year than most previous administrators ever attempted to be. Because she actually knows what goes on in classrooms, some teachers claim that she micro-manages. Maybe those teachers are uncomfortable for their boss to see what's really (not)going on in their classroom! And when she made suggestions for improvements, teachers were offended and took it as a put down. That's what bosses/principals are supposed to do!! Just because we have done things a certain way for many years, and former principals have allowed things to merely coast along does not make it right. Some teachers claim they want to be treated as a professional, but don't seem to want to behave like one. At least we have had organization and planning this year, instead of never knowing what's going on and changing the rules and procedures according to who's who and what a select few want. At least this year, we can know that what the principal says is the truth, and not only what we want to hear and will pacify us for a while. SHS is so far behind in so many ways, and people need to wake up before we slide even farther into the "this worked for the past five generations, so it is just fine for today" pit. And parents, how about disciplining your children at home and supporting school personnel as they attempt to help your child? We are allowing a large number of students to graduate as whining, apathetic, lazy, coddled babies who will have a rude awakening in the real world when mommie/daddie can't run to their college or workplace to take their side and attack anyone who expects them to be productive and respectful. I am disappointed in the manner in which some of the SHS faculty has behaved this year. If they had set a positive stage for the new principal and served as the role model they are paid to be, a lot of the negative occurences could have been avoided. I know of no situation where I am perfectly happy 100% of the time. But what happened to having respect for those around us even if they are not exactly like us???!!!, and following established procedures for the good of the entire group? Grow up people! People other than caucasion, male, Yadkin county good-old-boys have abilities and knowledge we could learn from. Hope it is not too late.
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crazy2day
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Posted 23:21, 06/06/2010
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teachtoo you must of put a bug in Parkers ear to tell her to read your post on here. $uck Up! we might not know who you are but I bet she does or its her if you are so perfect why are you in yadkin county
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white american
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Posted 7:22, 06/07/2010
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teachtoo, why did you have to bring race into this with your last 2 lines? This is not about parkers race, it is about her inability to do her job.
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toot
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Posted 19:5, 06/08/2010
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people please,do you really know what is going on your own county?west yadkin needs a new principal because the one they were hiring from new york want return or respond to any of thier communications and as for ms parker yadkin county should know from experience that these people that the school system hires from out of county or state only come to get richthen they pull out, its our own stupidity that entice these people.Now to the boe, they built schools we did not need at this time.why? because we are already in a dedt of no return at this time.we have to many schools with problems noone can seem to get a handle on.From our principals to teachers,custodians,bus garage and maintanace, they employ persons who frankly dont give a shit.we have people to old to be in our schools such as 75 yr old guidance counselors,retired personel who keep in the system just for fun because they suer dont do anything else.i could go on&on but im mad as hell and its time the boe started telling it like it is not sugar coated.
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momlymom
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Posted 19:36, 06/08/2010
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Did you come through Yadkin County Schools, Toot?
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mommadonna
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Posted 14:9, 06/09/2010
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I bet toot didn't have an assistant teacher and had a high student to teacher ratio, especially in grammer and language arts.
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SadNews
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Posted 8:6, 06/12/2010
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Toot people dont give a crap largely because the country is upside down. Weve been draining our economy with a war for a long time. Our jobs are all gone to other countries. There is just not a lot of hope of prosperity and lot of them seem lost. The jobs we have dont pay anything in respect to how much things cost. Things are tough out there. It doesnt help when it seems the BOE doesnt seem to have a handle on things or know what the right thing is to do. I dont think its as bad as you say but we have some issues no lie. We cant afford to pay enough money to make anyone rich as you stated. Im not sure anyone in this county is getting rich. I dont believe I know of a 75yr old guidance counselor thats one Ive never heard. Yes we do need those schools. We have a lot of children attending school here and if we dont do something the building cost will go up beyond our means to afford because you are right we arent doing too good on paper right now but we have a tendency to make stupid mistakes over and over around here for example: Why wouldnt we go to the river to get water back when there was lots of money to do it with and it would have been relatively cheap to do it? We are just too tight to have any foresight to do much of anything. Its no no no no no no to anything that involves spending money and weve noed ourselves into broke and behind the times. Thats just a fact but you cant always fix it with duct tape sometimes you have to get a new one.
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dj63
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Posted 20:5, 06/12/2010
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I'm so tired of hearing how its about the kids, everytime the schools want money. How about learning to budget better. Why is it my respondability as a tax payer to pay for drivers education, school resorce officers, to provide gymnasium for after school activites, english as a second language teachers, activity buses, is this not the respondability of the childrens parents.
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dj63
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Posted 20:8, 06/12/2010
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Talking about school resource officers being paid for by the boe, if I were UNFI I would request a deputy to provide security and pay the same rates as the school system, they could teach home security, dare to the employees.
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Country Bumpkin
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Posted 23:17, 06/12/2010
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sadnews, Hate to tell you this, BUT its not the war thats Breaking us , ITS The Mexicans.. Legal and Illegal.
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walks the talk
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Posted 2:18, 06/13/2010
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dj63 posted: I'm so tired of hearing how its about the kids, everytime the schools want money. How about learning to budget better. Why is it my respondability as a tax payer to pay for drivers education, school resorce officers, to provide gymnasium for after school activites, english as a second language teachers, activity buses, is this not the respondability of the childrens parents.
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Amen!!, Amen!!
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walks the talk
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Posted 2:26, 06/13/2010
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Country B: ^^^ You are right..It is not a war that is 'breaking us'. It is tax and spend/irresponsibility/illegals/'wants' instead of 'needs'/overpopulation/..
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ouch
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Posted 9:47, 06/13/2010
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Walks and dj63: Lets get rid of all the kids and young people. They are nothing but tax burdens. Why should we have to worry about what happens to our youth. If you dont care about something then you shouldnt have to pay tax dollars to support it. If we get rid of all those pesky teenagers and their sorry parents then it will leave all that tax money to us OLD FARTS !!
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michelekibbler
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Posted 10:58, 06/13/2010
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I didn't see anywhere in Walks post, that they wanted to get rid of young people. It is simple, budget what you have, and don't spend what you don't have. We didn't need the 2 middle schools at this time, because we couldn't afford them. The kids do not have books to take home and study. How smart is that? I have a child that struggles in certain subjects, but I couldn't help him study the chapters, because he didn't have a book.
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LeRoy B...
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Posted 11:17, 06/13/2010
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ouch: Don't talk B/S about us "OLD FARTS" If you live long enough and pay your taxes you can join us at "The Golden Arches" for breakfast.
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ouch
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Posted 15:26, 06/13/2010
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MK: Im only kidding about "getting rid of the kids". I thought people would read between the lines. As far as the middle schools go they are here like it or not. We can sit back and complain about what our "past" leaders have burdened us with or move fwd and make the best of it. A question: Do you think that parents are 100% financally responsible for their kids education. Do you think that parents should be billed for education or are we all responsible as a county/state/country to share the burden? Dont throw in other problems such as illeagals.
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LeRoy B...
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Posted 17:33, 06/13/2010
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ouch: I'll say we as tax payers, The State. says we owe the kids for a basic education, anything above and beyond are the parents responsibility.
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dj63
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Posted 18:36, 06/13/2010
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ouch: What should we spend our money on, upgrading our school system by including college courses at the high schools that actually count as credit, or should we worry about hurting people's feelings by cutting waste for their pet projects.
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ouch
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Posted 19:23, 06/13/2010
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dj63: I would like to see college courses at both of our high schools. Students at FHS and SHS should be given equal opportunity in the classes offered. This includes ROTC.
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SadNews
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Posted 19:55, 06/13/2010
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You know someone always complains when we have to be proactive about a problem. That why we dont have water coming here from the Yadkin. We could have done it for pennies years ago and now it would take millions we dont have. Sometimes you have to do something to keep from being in worse shape. We will never be in good shape until we get some business in here and if we had the water well----there you go. Turn a deaf ear if you like but the world keeps on turning. We would have jobs if someone had vision years ago but instead we had avarice, greed and penny pinching fools for politicians. Sometimes you have to spend some money to be able to make it back. Thats just good business and if you do good business you have growth. In truth that is what they didnt want --growth.
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walks the talk
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Posted 1:37, 06/14/2010
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Don't breed'em if you can't feed'em.
Applies to education and everything else.
Since, by law, it is taxpayers/state etc., responsibility to educate the children..then it should be fair. Like I said before:
For FAIRNESS, every person who is at least 18 and finished with all schooling should be paying a 'school tax' if not paying property taxes.
ouch: YOU said 'Lets get rid of...'. That is a bit extreme, don't you think?
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ouch
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Posted 10:40, 06/14/2010
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Walks: Im only kidding about the kids. I thought you, dj63 and MK could read between the lines. I too think that our kids education should be an equal tax burden for all of us. I personally like the idea of a 10% flat tax. Thats another topic on another day. I also feel that the younger population should be equally responsible for the care of our elders. Im only talking about US citizens. There`s not enough ink in my computer to tackle the illegals problem.
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abouthadit
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Posted 9:27, 06/26/2010
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I really dont understand you folks on the board of education. You had it in your mind to fire a principle for a long time yet you didnt have one ready to take over. Meantime the mess is running amok down at Forbush. Is it possible you guys dont give a rats rear end for the people who work down there? It sure looks like it. You know you just cant feel free to come to the Central Office and discuss things that really dont concern you directly but those people down there are someones spouse. If you let stuff get messed up and the good ones you have might just find better places to go. Some have already quit and others are looking I assure you so wake the hell up and pay attention other employees are counting on you. I wish I had never moved to this God For Saken place sometimes the way the people act and you arent helping a thing.
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SBD
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Posted 5:20, 06/27/2010
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about--hint hint, the main office is in no better shape than FHS. There are just more do nothings there and it takes a few more days of dumb looks and I don't knows before anyone figures out the main decision maker is MIA LOL
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abouthadit
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Posted 9:45, 06/27/2010
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SBD Posted 5:20, 06/27/2010
about--hint hint, the main office is in no better shape than FHS. There are just more do nothings there and it takes a few more days of dumb looks and I don't knows before anyone figures out the main decision maker is MIA LOL
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SBD,
You might have been attempting to come to some agreement with me but you really missed the mark. Since I have family that works down there I can assure you "doing nothing" is not an option. Each one of those students require a lot of administrative work to get them through by both the teachers and the administration. I dont know what you do for a living but I assure you that youre way off base with your post in my eyes. In fact that is the opposite of what the problem is. The state requires more of our school system than the employees they have can provide most of the time. Those people are worked hard really hard and it pisses me off when they are worked hard and then have to be subjected to petty bull**** on top of it. Im so glad I dont work for this county. All we can afford are people with personality and power issues. Then when you have dumbasses in county administration well there you go its even nicer. When you said there were just more do nothings there, it sends a connotation that high school employees do nothing and I will tell you that is from from true.
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SBD
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Posted 19:4, 06/27/2010
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about, in no way was I trying to agree with you.
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juswannano
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Posted 21:28, 06/29/2010
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anybody heard what went on at the school board mtg monday night? wonder who will be sent where. fhs needs a good principal
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